Not an atheist, have a question.

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If I let go of something in my hand, a pen lets say.. and there is absolutely nothing keeping it from falling to the ground, can it not fall? if yes Plz explain.

What is a "pen"?

1) illusion of not falling ... in orbit.
2) deep space ... no gravity, well little gravity.
3) totally crazy ... you let it go between to large body's where the gravity equal, they are "pulling", mother nature never "pulls" she only pushes, equally.

[truthBtold]

If I let go of something in my hand, a pen lets say.. and there is absolutely nothing keeping it from falling to the ground, can it not fall? if yes Plz explain.

What is a "pen"?

A tubular object with ink in it that fits perfectly in the holes of jesus hands. Da!!

[MJ the Skeptical]

Hi,

Howdy friendo.

I'll get straight to the point.

I like that quality in a person.

If nothing keeps something from happening can it not happen?

Nothing can't keep something from not happening because our understanding of nothing doesn't actually exist since we have no example of nothing. Your question is ill-formed and can't be answered properly without more detail.

If I let go of something in my hand, a pen lets say.. and there is absolutely nothing keeping it from falling to the ground, can it not fall? if yes Plz explain.

Nothing keeping it falling from the ground as in Gravity? then that scenario is incoherent since we need gravity to have a functioning planet. But the answer is, the gravity of the planet could be different so we could have a planet were the pen floats and doesn't fall. Hypothetically the fluctuations of gravity could be entirely different based on the star size, planet size and other external planetary explanations.

I'll keep going on the bases that the answer is "No"

Well it wasn't a no, so I won't concede that. But go on anyway...

The universe had a start, it took quite some time for earth to form and for life to exist... that -to me- does not make any sense at all..! Why wait?

Because large changes take a long time. There may have been ancient civilizations in distant galaxies, who knows what the required time for life to emerge is. Maybe it doesn't take a long time but our neck of the milky way just took longer to calm down and give it time to evolve life. What you're saying was basically just an appeal to ignorance, it doesn't make sense to you therefore it's wrong. Well no, evidence fits with the naturalistic model of the cosmos.

Why did life not exist the way we know it here and now immediately after the big bang?Or why doesn't life exist as we know it here and now on the moon? mars? Why is there no intelligent life swimming in lava?

Well, Mars and the Moon are dead pieces of rock but Mars may have harbored life before it lost it's atmosphere. But hypothetically, would you say that life should look like us throughout the entire universe? There are these lifeforms called extremophiles that can live in the most extreme climate and even survive radiation. I have this feeling that you think very small, like other creationists they don't account for the rest of the universe. It's a trait that the people of the ancient days had, a sense of not knowing how vast and grand the universe actually is so they made a god to fill in the emptiness of not knowing where they were in this cosmic ocean of chaos. The answer to your question is, it takes a while for life to be complex, just getting from one cell to multi-cell is a complex process, just getting from a chemical compound to basic cellular life (abiogenesis) is a tough process. You don't account for any of that.

Most say: the right conditions are not met in all time and space for life to exist, yet this very strict and complicated conditions existed here on earth not so long ago.... it just confuses me more and more... conditions?????

It's ludicrous to expect Earth to be the only place to harbor life, by the way we are here, so life had to get here by some process. It's logical to expect biological life to exist somewhere else. We have this thing called the Drake Equation, I think you should look it up and it will fill you in on just the sheer math involved with this equation of calculating the likelihood of life in the cosmos. Just imagine billions upon billions of galaxies which have more stars and even more planets, now try to imagine that they are all empty.

When I let my imaginations run wild, some times I picture -like in some sci-fi novels- a very advanced intelligent marine sort of life deep down in the sea where no man have seen, we can never rule out its existence yes?

This seems to be an argument for life being elsewhere in the cosmos though. We should expect to find microbial life in the massive ocean beneath Europa (Jupiter's moon), which is hot enough to have liquid oceans of water. It's logical to expect there is extremophiles inside comet's that regularly bombard other planets like ours. It's crazy that we can even have 200 year old "worms" living at the bottom of the ocean living off nothing but thermal energy from our volcanic earth.

Lets say it does exist, one thing we know for sure is that they don't know about us as well, or they would have made contact. Their idea about the universe and all that is around would be so different than us, to them life does not exist outside the ocean! Why? cuz the conditions for "life" are not met outside the ocean, but they are wrong and we do exist, and we are very noticeable.

Then the ocean-dwellers in your example were wrong, they obviously didn't study life outside the water so their opinion is moot.

Now, how come there is no kind of "life" that has so different conditions than ours exist on the moon? an intelligent life that requires no H2o for instance, one which we can see very easily.

This can't even be a serious question..go back to science classes please.

If I take a fish on dry land it would die very quickly, same would happen to me if sunk down the ocean without any O2. You see life has found a way to make many different beings who have "somewhat" different conditions of life here, yet it failed so miserably when you go a tiny TINY bit outside this TINY TINY rock we live on/in.

Again, go learn more about science. Natural Selection covers what your asking pretty well about how the animals who adapt to the tiny changes survive and the ones who don't die and that's just the way it is. By the way, our species will die someday, probably from a catastrophic event, or something that we do to ourselves. What is that proof of? that we're fallable animals in the struggle to survive.

Why did one kind of life ONLY ONE! which share the same kind of conditions form on earth? you can find life on needle head but you can not find it swimming in an ocean of lava? Why is there no immortal living thing?

We don't know for sure that it was just one species of bacteria that started the chain of Earth's lifeforms. It could have been multiple Abiogenesis events on the planet. We're not sure yet, but I don't see how this proves that an alternative theory of a god would make sense. Where the hell are you going with this? The improbability of life or the lack of abundant life in the cosmos is not a proof of god. You've got your work cut out for you to prove that god is even real.

What kept all these "lifes" from happening? why did the pen fell only one time?

BTW English is not my 1st language, thank you.

How are you so sure we are the only life to ever exist? You are assuming a lot before you even get out of the gate, just more arguments from ignorance. I'm sorry if I was unfair because of your English but your questions are just pretty bad in general whether English was your first language or not. Actually your questions are better than lots of fundamentalist religious people but thanks for playing I had fun reading it.