Remember christians, the bible is perfect for kids ;)

[MJ the Skeptical]

I wasn't referring to violence in the bible, you're being dense again I'm sorry. The violence is still endorsed today....You fail.

What violence, I do not see the Christian church calling for violence?

GC

Well first of all the church has called for violence in the past. I can easily think of ways Christianity is violent today though. Look no further than what's going on in Africa with Christianity. Also, the whole Anti-Gay problem throughout the centuries stems from religion. You can probably blame a lot of the violence against gay people on the religion that promotes that kind of in-group out-group, so and so is evil mentality. I see you're going to completely forget history after the bible came out. Since slavery in the colonial days wasn't endorsed by the bible at all, no you're right.

[Lemonvariable72]

I wasn't referring to violence in the bible, you're being dense again I'm sorry. The violence is still endorsed today....You fail.

What violence, I do not see the Christian church calling for violence?

GC

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No I'm not, but if thats how you wish to defend yourself then that shows just how weak you and your position is

I nor my position is weak, it is your self pride that want allow you to give an actual answer, grow up and give an answer or just drop it.

GC

Okay you want the actual answer? There is rating on video games for a reason and parent should pay close attention to what children play when they are young, and not be afraid to make kids go outside and play. In short no video games are not bad for kids, but no one should be leeting kids under 10 play GTA or COD. That said many video games can shown to be good for kids are they often have indepth stories with complex characters, they force to use your hand eye coordination and problem solving skills.
None of that can be said for the bible despite the fact that it is easily as violent as GTA 5, yet people rarely say don't let kids read the bible. Tell me if violent protrayed by a imaginary character on a TV screen is harmful to kids, how much more so is it when the violence is not only protrayed but openly emdorsed and bragged about by something that your telling them is a perfect omnipotent deity that they should emulate?

[Godscreated]

What violence, I do not see the Christian church calling for violence?

GC

Well first of all the church has called for violence in the past. I can easily think of ways Christianity is violent today though. Look no further than what's going on in Africa with Christianity. Also, the whole Anti-Gay problem throughout the centuries stems from religion. You can probably blame a lot of the violence against gay people on the religion that promotes that kind of in-group out-group, so and so is evil mentality. I see you're going to completely forget history after the bible came out. Since slavery in the colonial days wasn't endorsed by the bible at all, no you're right.

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.
As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.
As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.
Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

GC

[The Valkyrie]

Well first of all the church has called for violence in the past. I can easily think of ways Christianity is violent today though. Look no further than what's going on in Africa with Christianity. Also, the whole Anti-Gay problem throughout the centuries stems from religion. You can probably blame a lot of the violence against gay people on the religion that promotes that kind of in-group out-group, so and so is evil mentality. I see you're going to completely forget history after the bible came out. Since slavery in the colonial days wasn't endorsed by the bible at all, no you're right.

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.
As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.
As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.
Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

GC

See, you're guilty of what you're railing against here.

SOME sects of Islam are doing that, by no means all.

Yes, SOME Christian groups are doing good in places around the world, while SOME are still guilty of heinous acts.

And what slave trade would that be that you are referring to?

RJA

[Cyberman]

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. In GC's head, it's all about an ideological war between the Church and the "secular world" - a war that will be decided on how many brownie point each side can rack up.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Well first of all the church has called for violence in the past. I can easily think of ways Christianity is violent today though. Look no further than what's going on in Africa with Christianity. Also, the whole Anti-Gay problem throughout the centuries stems from religion. You can probably blame a lot of the violence against gay people on the religion that promotes that kind of in-group out-group, so and so is evil mentality. I see you're going to completely forget history after the bible came out. Since slavery in the colonial days wasn't endorsed by the bible at all, no you're right.

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.
As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.
As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.
Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

GC

Oh cool. So you're a bigot as well.

[Lemonvariable72]

Well first of all the church has called for violence in the past. I can easily think of ways Christianity is violent today though. Look no further than what's going on in Africa with Christianity. Also, the whole Anti-Gay problem throughout the centuries stems from religion. You can probably blame a lot of the violence against gay people on the religion that promotes that kind of in-group out-group, so and so is evil mentality. I see you're going to completely forget history after the bible came out. Since slavery in the colonial days wasn't endorsed by the bible at all, no you're right.

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.
As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.
As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.
Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

GC

Okay then name one secular nation that endorses the slave trade. I can name several religious ones.

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Also what do you mean when you say "The Church"? The close thing to "The Church" is the Catholic church that still accounts for nearly half of all Christians. Yet I doubt you were referring to them

[Ryantology]

Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it,

If we are all responsible for the sin of Adam and Eve, then you are responsible for the cruelties of the religion to which you belong.

[MJ the Skeptical]

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.

It's impossible to say all of them did anything, even good. And so what if there is good in the church? wasn't your point that Christianity doesn't promote violence and I completely debunked that.

As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.

And I have a right to call people like yourself the stain on society, stuck in the dark ages of mythology. What possible way could you object to gays without dogma? And sure they do condone violence, they condone child rape happening by their priests and let the rapist priests go free because they have power and money to do so.

As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.

What slave trade is happening under secularism? do tell.

And actually Islam is where Christianity was 1000 years ago, trying to make you convert or die.

Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

Right, you don't want to take responsibility for your religions baggage. You want to sweep the past and present under the rug. You want to pretend that Christianity can do no wrong, True Christians can never do wrong, and they never condoned violence. When all you have to do is turn on the fucking news to see otherwise. I'm glad I exposed you a little bit for the asshole that you are. Have a nice day.

You just got godslayed..

Godslayer Godschild

[Godscreated]

The entire church in the past did not condone violence. There's a lot going on with Christianity in Africa much good, homes, schools, food, medicine, education, wells and much more, yet you can only see a few isolated incidences.

It's impossible to say all of them did anything, even good. And so what if there is good in the church? wasn't your point that Christianity doesn't promote violence and I completely debunked that.

Christianity does not promote violence, a few people who claim to be Christians do violent acts, just as many who claim to be atheist do violent acts. So you haven't debunked anything other than you having integrity.

As for the gays, Christians have the right to object to their life style, I did before I was a Christian and I know other non believers that do now. The church does not condone violence upon anyone period.

And I have a right to call people like yourself the stain on society, stuck in the dark ages of mythology. What possible way could you object to gays without dogma? And sure they do condone violence, they condone child rape happening by their priests and let the rapist priests go free because they have power and money to do so.

You're referring to the Catholic church, the protestant church on the whole believe the Catholic church leaders should be prosecuted and jailed for those evil deeds. I personally object to gays because it goes against nature and God says the act is perverted.

As for slavery, the secular world is allowing without even complaint the greatest slave trade the world has ever seen, while the Christian church is trying to free as many as possible.
Islam has called for the elimination of the U.S. and the Christians of the world.

What slave trade is happening under secularism? do tell.

And actually Islam is where Christianity was 1000 years ago, trying to make you convert or die.

You are kidding right, well maybe you are that out of the loop of world events, the news covers this once in awhile. Slave trade for workers and especially in the illegal sex markets. Actually I believe you are not so dense you do not know about this, you conveniently disregard it so you can stay comfortable with it.
Who feed you that bag full of crap and you bought it no less.

Christians do not like all of our past even though we are not actually responsible for it, but you and others are living in a time when plenty can be done about today's slave trade. Christianity is on the move to help these people how will history report the secular world's effort.

Right, you don't want to take responsibility for your religions baggage. You want to sweep the past and present under the rug. You want to pretend that Christianity can do no wrong, True Christians can never do wrong, and they never condoned violence. When all you have to do is turn on the fucking news to see otherwise. I'm glad I exposed you a little bit for the asshole that you are. Have a nice day.

You just got godslayed..

Godslayer Godschild

Today's church is not responsible for what the church did a thousand years ago, you are still confusing the Catholic church with the Protestant church, you need to define who you are talking about. I never said Christians do no wrong, we make our fair share of mistakes and I never said that some Christians do not condone violence, I said Christianity does not and that the church does not, but I know this must be very difficult for you to figure out. The only thing you have exposed is your small mind and your bigoted ideas about something you have no idea about. When I turn on the news all I see is atheist who kill, rob old women, sell drugs to children, shoot those who try their best to uphold the law, make crack to ruin the lives of families across this country and the atheist pedophiles
who rape and murder countless innocent children in every city in this country, I could go on but I believe you can see what atheist are doing to this country.

Now the above, you showing everyone here who is the one who condones violence. If you could get away with it you would probably make it a reality. You do have a talent of talking out both sides of your mouth, truly shameful. In the end we will see who knows how eternity will play out.

GC