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Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 2:24 am
If you don't believe in a perfect god then this isn't aimed torwards you.
Why would a perfect being need/want to make an imperfect world with imperfect beings?
You have this individual who supposedly has no flaws at all, and he makes a flawed universe full of people who harm one another and who hate one another.
It doesn't make sense at all. Why would a perfect being make a imperfect world.
If your first answer was free will then if Free will is such a limiting factor on making a perfect creation why have it in the first place? It seems like that in itself is a mistake, intentionally making your creation with a huge limiting factor.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 3:23 am
The answer is a lot more mundane I'm afraid...
It is because, since Zeus, and his democratic party of 12, sent ancient Greece broke and into oblivion, that the Committee of Universal Nebulae Terraforming Syndicate (CUNTS)decided to outsource the menial universe/life creation duties to those "other" entities who are happy to work for half the price!
So, OP, you get what you pay for ... makes sense now doesn't it...
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 4:15 am
How's this:
Perfection requires perfect symmetry, therefore a perfect being would create all possible worlds, both big and small, good and bad. We find ourselves in an imperfect one by chance.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 4:21 am
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If a perfect being create perfect worlds with perfect inhabitants, they would have no need of a God.
It's in God's interest to justify his existence by creating only imperfect worlds where the inhabitants will know despair and need hope and crave salvation...
If he in fact creates perfect worlds, he himself is not perfect, as he becomes redundant!? 
Sounds a bit like a kobayashi maru.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 9:56 am
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We're living in gods tragic sitcom. It was never meant to be perfect.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 11:19 am
god of the bible isn't good by comic book status.
simple put the christian good is a psychopath that demands love
and worship and punishes humans but why the fuck not.
Or you know the reality of it all god doesn't exist and humans like me and you are just looking up into
the night sky thinking oh man a god might have created all that and which god(s) instead of crediting nature
for all that hard work.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 12:06 pm
The answer to this is really quite simple. The imperfect world wasn't created by a perfect god, a conceptually perfect god was created by an imperfect world. Perfect, in most cases, is subjective. It isn't a real thing. There are no specific qualities you can assign to a being which would make it "perfect", only vague notions of what you, personally, believe would make it perfect. And even then you can't nail down most of the specifics, so the idea becomes that God is so much better than us that trying to understand her would be like an ant trying to understand us. Vagueness is an absolute necessity to avoid shattering the illusion of perfection, something which isn't actually even definable for a being, much less attainable.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 2:17 pm
I don't even know what a perfect world would be to a human being as we are all so different. I am sure a sad-masochists perfect world would be a hell for me. And how could I know that a god is not equivalent in desires to me. Perfection is an illusion.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 3:02 pm
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In my opinion, because He didn't want to micromanage it/us. He wanted to create a world where nature took its course and where intelligent beings had the free will to act in good or evil ways. The "perfect world" is Heaven.
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RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 13, 2017 at 3:24 pm
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(February 13, 2017 at 3:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In my opinion, because He didn't want to micromanage it/us. He wanted to create a world where nature took its course and where intelligent beings had the free will to act in good or evil ways. The "perfect world" is Heaven. If it was perfect, it wouldn't need micromanaging.
Only imperfect things require a lot of management.
Also, do you think perfect beings cannot have free will? So, God does not have free will?
If not, then a perfect world would still have had the option of free will, and nature taking it;s course, and God being very hands, off. Probably more hands off, as there would be no need to intervene to punish, test, or help people so very often.
One more question, do you think we lack free will in heaven, since we no longer have the choice to act in an evil way?
So, here is my answer. This isn't exactly right, in our human definition of perfect. But I love this concept of god/satan/angels. They would be so foreign, so lacking human emotion, they would be monsters to us. In their "perfection", they would lack our definitions of right and wrong.
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