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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 11:04 am
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(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I said that a car can go on kerosene instead of petrol (your gasoline)
but after sometime the motor will suffer.
In the same way the body can eat shit (meat) but after sometime
the damages will be evident.
You're completely missing the point. These people lived for generations in Arctic weather where there was very little plant food so they had to eat a lot of their meat raw in order to get all the vitamins and minerals they needed. Herbivores wouldn't survive on that diet any more than humans can survive on a diet of grass.
Not all vegans and vegetarians believe that humans aren't omnivores. From the Vegan Health Org website -
Is The Vegan Diet Natural?
Quote:Is the vegan diet natural? To answer that question, I recommend an article that examines the subject in great detail, Comparative Anatomy and Physiology Brought Up to Date: Are Humans Natural Frugivores/Vegetarians, or Omnivores/Faunivores? by Tom Billings. After an extensive review of the research, Billings concludes that humans are not naturally vegetarians or vegans. Despite this, he says:
I am both pro-vegetarian and pro-[eating raw foods as a large portion of the diet]. Readers should be aware that I am a long-time vegetarian (since 1970), a former long-time (8+ years) fruitarian (also a former vegan),... However, I am definitely not a promoter of, or a "missionary" for, any specific diet. In reality, I am tired of seeing raw and [vegan/vegetarian] diets promoted in negative ways by extremists whose hostile and dishonest behavior is a betrayal of the positive moral principles that are supposedly at the heart of veg*ism.
He continues:
You really don't need the naturalness claim to be a veg*n! That is, moral/spiritual reasons alone are adequate to justify following a veg*n diet (assuming the diet works for you, of course). Further, if the motivation for your diet is moral and/or spiritual, then you will want the basis of your diet to be honest as well as compassionate. In that case, ditching the false myths of naturalness presents no problems; indeed, ditching false myths means that you are ditching a burden.
Readers may also be interested in the article Humans are Omnivores, adapted from a talk by John McArdle, PhD (originally published in the May/June 1991 edition of the Vegetarian Journal). The PaleoVeganology blog also has interesting information about the diets of our ancestors.
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Easily explained.
Wild meat is free from antibiotics, hormones and all other crap
used these days to keep meat fresh longer and red in color.
Also note that together with farm meat Artic people started eating
also junk food
Exactly. Their traditional meat diet was extreme because of where they lived but it was the kind of meat that humans evolved to eat. Archaeological evidence for meat eating 2.8 million years ago doesn't automatically mean that our ancestors ate vast quantities of it in Africa, though. After all, there's going to be a lot of animal bones piling up over the course of a couple of million years.
Two of my real life friends have been vegetarians for years. They're also pagans who follow an Earth based religion. They have never promoted the idea that humans aren't omnivores because they know how humans evolved. They believe in reincarnation as well but they aren't vegetarians because they're hoping to get a healthy body next time round. They've chosen a meat free diet for ethical reasons because they're against the way that farm animals are treated and the environmental effects of growing so much livestock feed. They're also concerned about the rain forests and environmental issues which have nothing to do with meat.
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I do not eat veggies burger or any other greasy veg. food so do all my friends.
From Post #730 in this topic.
(May 21, 2014 at 10:14 am)Riketto Wrote: (May 21, 2014 at 10:04 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: What did you have?
Wild rice with a vegetarian steak.
For drink i had sunflower milk shake (sunflower seed, lecithin, water, blended together)
Do the vegetarian steaks you eat contain palm oil? If not, that's fine. If the product does have palm oil is the supplier running a sustainable plantation which doesn't involve cutting down any more rain forest?
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I believe that he did not eat shit but these days in India you don't have to
eat shit to get sick anyway.
Did you miss the bit about the genetic mutation?
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 7:06 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: There is no such a thing as luck.
So if I find a dollar on the sidewalk, this is destiny?
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 7:27 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: I am a normal person
You sure about that?
(June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: IHospitals and other institutions are full of denialists try to survive
or going totally demented.
Well, one anyway.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 7:40 pm
(June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: (June 5, 2014 at 3:41 pm)rasetsu Wrote: (June 5, 2014 at 6:31 am)Riketto Wrote: I already explained why this is the case.
I also mention how my grandfather live so long and in good health
despite he was smoking cigars and drinking wine regularly.
All these people in previous lives build up an healthy body-mind
and in this life they are screwing up the old saving. And how would you know this is the case rather than it simply being luck?
Do you have "past life eyes" or something?
There is no such a thing as luck.
Many people think that the manna some time can fall from the sky
but it never happen.
Eventually when you get the manna this is due to previous
actions which depend on karma law.
This is not relevant. You did not answer the question.
I asked "how" you know this. Not whether it was karmic law or not.
So again. HOW do you know that it isn't luck, that it's karmic law?
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The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 9:40 pm
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This thread is like watching an episode of A&E's "Intervention."
People try to help Riketto, he just keeps spiraling downward, and I just can't look away.
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 7, 2014 at 12:23 am
They have a hard time letting going of their own thought process.
Change is always bad for these types!
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 7, 2014 at 6:08 pm
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(June 5, 2014 at 6:31 am)Riketto Wrote: I already explained why this is the case.
I also mention how my grandfather live so long and in good health
despite he was smoking cigars and drinking wine regularly.
All these people in previous lives build up an healthy body-mind
and in this life they are screwing up the old saving.
As simple as that.
Keep on holding your breath a bit longer boy
more bad news for denialists on coming.
Fox News claims it's news by virtue of its title.
Claiming something that's bullshit as news, good or bad, doesn't make it news.
It makes it blatant bullshit.
There's a reason for the "denialism." Maybe if you'd pull your head out of your butt-pucker you'd understand why that is. I'll explain it for you, though. It's because what you're claiming is all blatant bullshit. You haven't produced a single iota of any kind of verifiable evidence. You've simply puked up an endless stream of Woo and baseless claims. What we're doing is not denialism. Denialism is when you are faced with overwhelming evidence... evidence, not claims...as in, empirical, irrefutable evidence... and refusing to believe it anyway.
You're on a forum filled to bursting with skeptics and wondering why it is that nobody's buying your bullshit. When so many skeptics are going "where's the bacon?" it might help to, I dunno, bring the fucking bacon? Start showing tangible evidence and not conjecture, leaps of faith, and wild bounds to unrelated conclusions, and you might actually begin to convince people. But until such time...I'm gonna call bullshit what it is.
(June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: There is no such a thing as luck.
Many people think that the manna some time can fall from the sky
but it never happen.
Eventually when you get the manna this is due to previous
actions which depend on karma law.
I am a normal person physically speaking but if i smoke a
cigar and i drink wine or any other shit i will get very sick
very fast.
Once you clean the blood from impurities your body-mind
hate something filthy entering the body but if you slowly slowly
introduce this shit into the body then you will not get a shock
and the abnormal become normal in the mind.
This of course does not mean that it want make any damage.
That is how a denialist is born.
He-she will come to the conclusion that by eating shit or
taking any other harmful item nothing will happen.
Sorry denialists i got bad news for you.
Hospitals and other institutions are full of denialists try to survive
or going totally demented.
(June 6, 2014 at 11:04 am)Confused Ape Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I do not eat veggies burger or any other greasy veg. food so do all my friends.
From Post #730 in this topic.
(May 21, 2014 at 10:14 am)Riketto Wrote: Wild rice with a vegetarian steak.
For drink i had sunflower milk shake (sunflower seed, lecithin, water, blended together)
"I don't do this. Except when I do."
This twit can't even get his own shit straight. Vegetarian steaks and veggie burgers are made from the same friggin' materials, just with different quantities of them and with different methods of preparation.
Also that sounds absolutely nauseating. I dunno how you can eat that shit.
I'll stick to eating my steaks, potatoes, hamburgers, pork loins, bacon, and whatever else my body and/or brain decides it wants that particular day. At least I won't be wasting my life trying to squeeze two or three more years out of my 80s or 90s [if I'm lucky] in exchange for eating shit that tastes only so slightly better than cardboard.
I've tried those vegan steaks before. I never knock a dish without trying it first. It was supposedly of such quality that I would "never miss the real thing" if I went on a diet wherein that replaced actual steaks.
BULLSHIT. Compare a ribeye to that mockery of flavor and then tell me I can't have the former anymore, and watch me break down into hysterical sobs.
Gimme flavor over health any day. At least I'll die with better experiences in my memories as I look back on them before I blink out of existence.
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 7, 2014 at 7:00 pm
(June 5, 2014 at 7:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Hailing the mothership on all frequencies...
All shall join the Unity in time! Do not dare resist!
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 8, 2014 at 7:17 am
(June 6, 2014 at 7:06 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 8:26 am)Riketto Wrote: There is no such a thing as luck.
So if I find a dollar on the sidewalk, this is destiny?
Destiny and karma are not the same thing.
Destiny is more similar to good or bad luck
while karma is based on actions and reactions.
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RE: The redneck strike again.
June 8, 2014 at 7:45 am
(June 8, 2014 at 7:17 am)Riketto Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 7:06 pm)bennyboy Wrote: So if I find a dollar on the sidewalk, this is destiny?
Destiny and karma are not the same thing.
Destiny is more similar to good or bad luck
while karma is based on actions and reactions.
Karma is another bullshit claim.
Good people spend their lives in poverty, while liars, thieves, crooks, cheats, backstabbers, double-dealers and murderers get elected to office, become powerful individuals, and die quiet, easy deaths, while good people spend their lives helping those around them, only to die of cancer, or of violence, or many other horrible ways to go.
"Karma" is a term used by a bunch of sheltered yuppies, ignorant hippies, and idealistic tools who are too cowardly to accept that good does not beget good, and bad does not beget bad. You don't get rewarded or punished by the universe for your actions. If you want proof of this, you need only look at current events...
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