Which was first: Atheism or Religion?

[GrandizerII]

I actually think that by the time man had emerged, they had already been made to believe in some higher power(s) the moment the frontal lobes were developed enough.

[ShaMan]

If atheism was first, then religion was created by atheists.

But... If religion was first, then atheism was created by religion.

[fr0d0]

Hey Rhythm

Obviously I read it differently to you. You take the cave man/ fundy literalist position, and can't reconcile that. Neither could I.

So I guess from over here your pov looks as conflicted as mine does to you.

[Knowledge of God]

If atheism was first, then religion was created by atheists.

But... If religion was first, then atheism was created by religion.

When did atheism originate?

Was evolution involvolved or was it created?

They say: your future all depends on your roots.

[ShaMan]

When did atheism originate?

Ask an atheist - I don't claim to know.

Was evolution involvolved or was it created?

Was evolution involved in {creating/developing} 'atheism'? Probably, yes (my best observation)

They say: your future all depends on your roots.

I'm not sure who 'they' are, or exactly what you are inferring.

[fr0d0]

Irrational : fuck you hypocrite

This is too funny. An atheist apologizes to you even though he/she didn't even do you any wrong, while you actually insult another atheist and instead of apologizing like a man of God is expected to do when he does wrong, you just insult him even more.

Hypocrite? In what way? You are the biggest hypocrite I've encountered around here thus far. Now I know when you speak of God, you're just making empty statements because your faith doesn't seem to have made you a better person at all.

But you know, there's still hope for you. You can fix the wrong that you just did here and apologize, or go deeper and deeper into the hole you just put yourself in. I'm trying my best to treat you as a fellow human being with feelings, but your choice.

And fuck me? In your dreams, mate.

Pokie and I are talking to each other like reasonable human beings. He doesn't agree with me but it's still prepared to apologise for any offence anyway. I can only respect him for that.

You accuse me of insulting you where I didn't, demand an apology for spurious reason, say that you don't insult people and then construct a reply full of insults. That's how you're a hypocrite my friend.

[pocaracas]

Pokie and I are talking to each other like reasonable human beings. He doesn't agree with me but it's still prepared to apologise for any offence anyway. I can only respect him for that.

IT ?!?!?!?!?!?

Wow, man... thanks...

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I see you're using the mobile... I'd get a new auto-correct for that... if you're using android, I hear TouchPal is now free, which is one of the best keyboards available

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[GrandizerII]

This is too funny. An atheist apologizes to you even though he/she didn't even do you any wrong, while you actually insult another atheist and instead of apologizing like a man of God is expected to do when he does wrong, you just insult him even more.

Hypocrite? In what way? You are the biggest hypocrite I've encountered around here thus far. Now I know when you speak of God, you're just making empty statements because your faith doesn't seem to have made you a better person at all.

But you know, there's still hope for you. You can fix the wrong that you just did here and apologize, or go deeper and deeper into the hole you just put yourself in. I'm trying my best to treat you as a fellow human being with feelings, but your choice.

And fuck me? In your dreams, mate.

Pokie and I are talking to each other like reasonable human beings. He doesn't agree with me but it's still prepared to apologise for any offence anyway. I can only respect him for that.

And what about you? Too proud to apologise for any offence anyway?

The posts are still here for you to review and see exactly what happened.

You accuse me of insulting you where I didn't, demand an apology for spurious reason, say that you don't insult people and then construct a reply full of insults. That's how you're a hypocrite my friend.

I'm not stupid, fr0d0. The post that started this is still there. You were quoting me when you said that.

And calling me "friend" right after calling me a hypocrite doesn't make much sense to me. But anyhow ...

I was trying to reason with you in a respectful manner. You overreacted and and said what you said. That's fine, but at least own up to what you said. If you think apology is admirable, then it wouldn't hurt for you to do so.

If, however, the ego is in the way, whatever. It's your loss at the end of the day, not mine.

[fr0d0]

IT ?!?!?!?!?!?

Wow, man... thanks...

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I see you're using the mobile... I'd get a new auto-correct for that... if you're using android, I hear TouchPal is now free, which is one of the best keyboards available

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Yeah I'm switching between keyboards atm. Currently on Swype because Touchpal's autocorrect is weird. Liked AOSP to be honest but need a white keyboard. Roll on "L"

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I'm not stupid, fr0d0. The post that started this is still there. You were quoting me when you said that.

I was trying to reason with you in a respectful manner. You overreacted and and said what you said. That's fine, but at least own up to what you said. If you think apology is admirable, then it wouldn't hurt for you to do so.

If, however, the ego is in the way, whatever. It's your loss at the end of the day, not mine.

I was writing you and said, iirc, that if you wanted to be a douche like ramp.....
So if you took the insult, then that was you doing it and not me.
Notice ramp has hit and run again.
If you agree with ramp, then I'm afraid I do tar you with the same brush. You don't retract your accusation,I don't retract my opinion of that accusation... I think it's true, just like you think you're right.
I've explained why I said what I did. I find I have nothing to apologise for. I believe that you are trolling me.

[pocaracas]

IT ?!?!?!?!?!?

Wow, man... thanks...

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I see you're using the mobile... I'd get a new auto-correct for that... if you're using android, I hear TouchPal is now free, which is one of the best keyboards available

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Yeah I'm switching between keyboards atm. Currently on Swype because Touchpal's autocorrect is weird. Liked AOSP to be honest but need a white keyboard. Roll on "L"

Yeah... I noticed that problem with touchpal, too... And I'm also on swype when I use the mobile... Got used to it during the beta stage and then I tried a few alternatives, but none were as fluid as swype.

There's a nice keyboard out there for the PC enthusiast: hackers keyboard