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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 2:51 am
(July 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)LogicOrDie Wrote: Well, throughout the hebrew bible, God never annouce that He'll send a son, nor does He absolutely talk about his so-called trinitarian nature. But then Jesus came and taught otherwise. I think that Christianity is false enough by being in contradiction of hte hebrew Scriptures. How could Jesus hold these texts as true and contradict them. Despite he preserves the unicity of God, he also challanges reason by claiming something completely foreign to Scriptures. Are christians blind or brainless or something ?
God had more sons and daughters than you can shake a snake at. Jesus drew the short straw and got crucified.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 7:47 am
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(July 12, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 12, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Blackout Wrote: No, a two or three lines answer will be enough if you outline the basic arguments and evidence supporting them. The Christian gospels are not historically reliable.
If you don't want to visit the websites I referenced, then you're really not interested in seeking the truth. Where do you think I and most others go to find information? I'm not a biblical historian or archaeologist. I go to various sources, compare, and try to determine which are most reliable. If you want I can use your method. When you ask me for evidence to support the historical reliability of scripture, I'll just reply by asking you for evidence that it's not. Anyway, I've given you some evidence.
Jenny A already answered before I logged in again... I have nothing more to say. If you truly used the historical method, compared the most reliable sources, you'd reach the conclusion a huge part of the bible is forged. No offense.
And before using the argument of passing the burden of evidence to the other part, something you can't do because you're making a positive claim, I'll ask you, why isn't the lord of the rings accurate evidence for god?
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(July 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)LogicOrDie Wrote: ... Are christians blind or brainless or something ?
YES.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 2:23 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Thackerie Wrote: (July 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)LogicOrDie Wrote: ... Are christians blind or brainless or something ?
YES.
Don't single out Christianity. Humans in our species history unfortunately prefer more often than not, a comforting lie over truth.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(July 10, 2014 at 11:12 pm)atheist04330 Wrote: two works of fiction contradicting each other?
who would of thunk it?
I think I just figured it out. God just has split personality disorder. See one day he goes by the name Yahweh and tells people to circumcise themselves and eat kosher food. The he goes by Jesus and tells people to give up all their possessions and be peaceful and humble. Then he goes by Allah and tells women to cover themselves up and gets pissed off whenever someone draws muhammad. Don't even get me started on when he goes into his mormon or Scientology phases.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 5:28 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Thackerie Wrote: (July 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)LogicOrDie Wrote: ... Are christians blind or brainless or something ?
YES.
Only selectively about a certain subject. 
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 5:33 pm
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(July 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm)MagetheEntertainer Wrote: I think I just figured it out. God just has split personality disorder. See one day he goes by the name Yahweh and tells people to circumcise themselves and eat kosher food. The he goes by Jesus and tells people to give up all their possessions and be peaceful and humble. Then he goes by Allah and tells women to cover themselves up and gets pissed off whenever someone draws muhammad. Don't even get me started on when he goes into his mormon or Scientology phases.
This should show you that we were really made in his image.
(July 13, 2014 at 7:47 am)Blackout Wrote: I'll ask you, why isn't the lord of the rings accurate evidence for god?
It doesn't claim to be and God wasn't directly involved it's writing, although the author was a christian.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 5:41 pm
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The second bits a wash though, gods have never been directly involved in any writing.
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 5:56 pm
Quote:If you don't want to visit the websites I referenced, then you're really not interested in seeking the truth.
Ah... so YOUR websites are the truth.
I prefer our websites.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
They're truthier!
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RE: A quite disturbing absurdity in Christianity
July 13, 2014 at 6:01 pm
(July 12, 2014 at 11:53 pm)Jenny A Wrote: 5. The Merneptah Stele, This is an Egyption monument discussing conquering the Israelites, Libyans and others around Palestine in 1230 BC. As your site says this is when the Isrealites were already in the "promised land." Isn't that more of a problem than a help?
Why do you always give me the hard ones, Jenny? Life was so much easier before you showed up. Actually, most of your statements are subjective and it's really hard to pin down dates when you go back that far in history. All we have is tiny fragments from secular history and archaeology. As far as the flood stories go, the Jewish and Christian story may or may not have written later that some, but the flood spoken of took place at a much earlier date than the date of composition. Even it there are other stories from widespread areas of the world, it doesn't show the bible writers copied, but more likely there was an actual worldwide flood. I guess the readers can evaluate the evidence for themselves. As far as Item 5, I don't see that as a problem at all. The king didn't say he conquered Israel, but made successful conquests against them. I just see it as evidence of the existence of Israel during that time period and also the existence of King David.
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