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August 4, 2014 at 8:59 am (This post was last modified: August 4, 2014 at 9:17 am by Losty.)
Ok....
(August 4, 2014 at 4:27 am)Mozart Link Wrote:
If, let's pretend, there were a portal right there in front of me right now that would lead me to a life of perfection and eternal joy and I had the choice to either go into that portal or instead remain here on Earth and suffer with depression and such and help other people, I would go into that portal. Now before you think negative of me and such, I would actually take care of this situation of other people not being helped by having someone take my place to help others and make up for the help I chose not to offer. Then after I have chosen someone, I would then enter the portal and leave this world.
What is the actual purpose of this pretend world? Is this a copy of that matrix movie? Is the portal a blue pill?
If you still think negative of me and such, I am going to clearly prove you wrong. First off, this is a "two birds with one stone situation" in which I have not only taken care of the situation in which other people have not been helped by me, but I also have given myself a life of perfection and eternal joy as well. Second, for you to still think negative of me would mean that you think that having this burden placed on someone else in helping others is more important than my own emotional well-being (my pleasure and such). This is obviously wrong and my emotional well-being is far more important than some extremely minor inconvenience in comparison in which this person would have to make up for the help I did not offer others.
I can't think of a single reason that I would ever think bad of someone for entering a hypothetical portal in an imaginary world.
Also, life has no meaning and is whatever meaning you give it. So whatever meaning I give myself such as that my happiness is the most important thing more important than anything in the world and I am all great, etc., then this would be something true (only for me).
Now being alive is superior to being dead as long as you have pleasure. So if I am emotionally alive (have all the pleasure in the world), then that makes me superior and a better person than if I were to be depressed and numb (emotionally dead) regardless of who I am, what attitude I have, and how much I help others. Even if I were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as I have all the pleasure in the world, that would make me a far better and superior person than if I were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people. Pleasure is the absolute and defining life force of "living" and a living thing that makes you better and superior (as I know just how good of a experience pleasure is and how much it makes life worth living and is the only thing to me that makes life worth living). Without it, you are nothing regardless of how much you help others and such. So even if I didn't choose to have someone take my place in helping others before I went into that portal, I would still be the better person for choosing to have all the pleasure in the world and living a life of self-empowerment, perfection, and eternal joy.
So you're saying as long as you're happy that automatically makes you superior to anyone who is depressed or happens to have a less pleasurable life than you?
If that's what you're saying, then I completely disagree with you.
If someone were to try to prevent me from entering that portal, even if they were innocent, I would become a psychopath and ruthlessly kill this person for not having any value towards my own emotional well-being and instead choosing to view helping others as far more important and devaluing my own emotional well-being for this sake (when I clearly know that my own emotional well-being is far more important in this case, especially since I have chosen to have someone take my place in helping others). This is another reason why I feel empowered by watching anime and feeling empowered from characters in anime who are ruthless and have a sense of self-empowerment and such. So in killing this person trying to prevent me from entering that portal, I would of felt awesome just like these ruthless characters.
Ok we are back to the portal. Is there a point you're trying to prove? Or you're just sharing a nintendo game idea with us?
Finally, if I had the choice to either be retarded and have all the pleasure in the world and give the person the burden of having to take care of me or to be intelligent and have no pleasure and not give a person this burden, I would not only choose to be retarded for all of my reasons given here, but also because this person (especially if it were my own family) should value my own emotional well-being in which they would be devastated knowing the fact that I am living a life of no pleasure despite the fact that I am intelligent and such. And that it would be far better for them to have the burden of taking care of me if I were retarded because, even though they would have this burden and perhaps a hard life resulting from it, they would at least know that I am happy and that would make them feel happy and at peace as opposed to them being devastated if I were intelligent and such with no pleasure.
Ok seriously, what I got from this is that you're too lazy to live real life. You'd really like to have an excuse to have someone else take care of you so you don't ever have to think or do anything for yourself. I don't usually like to be rude or mean, but I must say that this is a bit pathetic.
Come on, life doesn't work this way. You don't live in a fantasy world. No one is ever going to offer you the key to ultimate happiness via a wish or a portal. If you want to be happy then you need to first learn to find happiness in the life you already have, and second get off your butt and seek out whatever happiness you long for.
Your life will never be an anime cartoon.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
(August 4, 2014 at 12:51 am)Losty Wrote: Wait does this mean you guys wantz to play D&D for realz!? Bc I am down. I have a stat sheet around here somewhere if I can just use the same character. But I don't know how to run a game.
I would be so down with that.
But keep in mind, at my ripe old age of 40 I haven't played PnP D&D since 2nd Ed. So I gotta get caught on all you kid's new D&D jargon.
(August 4, 2014 at 12:51 am)Losty Wrote: Wait does this mean you guys wantz to play D&D for realz!? Bc I am down. I have a stat sheet around here somewhere if I can just use the same character. But I don't know how to run a game.
I would be so down with that.
But keep in mind, at my ripe old age of 40 I haven't played PnP D&D since 2nd Ed. So I gotta get caught on all you kid's new D&D jargon.
Ha. I believe 2nd Ed. is the only kind of D&D I know how to play. I just started playing several months ago. I don't think I know a lot of D&D jargon. But Guley is here now so that's good, he's my go to guy for D&D lol.
Someone needs to start a game for sure though
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
(August 4, 2014 at 8:59 am)Losty Wrote: So you're saying as long as you're happy that automatically makes you superior to anyone who is depressed or happens to have a less pleasurable life than you?
If that's what you're saying, then I completely disagree with you.
This is what I'm saying and if you think otherwise, please prove the arguments I made here backing that up wrong.
(August 4, 2014 at 8:59 am)Losty Wrote: Ok seriously, what I got from this is that you're too lazy to live real life. You'd really like to have an excuse to have someone else take care of you so you don't ever have to think or do anything for yourself. I don't usually like to be rude or mean, but I must say that this is a bit pathetic.
Come on, life doesn't work this way. You don't live in a fantasy world. No one is ever going to offer you the key to ultimate happiness via a wish or a portal. If you want to be happy then you need to first learn to find happiness in the life you already have, and second get off your butt and seek out whatever happiness you long for.
Your life will never be an anime cartoon.
I clearly stated that if I have chosen to instead be intelligent and have no pleasure, that would devastate my family and that it would be far better for them knowing that I am happy even if their lives were very difficult in having to take care of me if I were retarded and all happy. And why wouldn't they feel this way and feel devastated knowing that my emotional well-being (my pleasure) is all gone despite the fact that I am intelligent and such?
These things I'm saying here are not excuses--they are facts and unless you can disprove them, they will forever remain as facts.
(August 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: These things I'm saying here are not excuses--they are facts and unless you can disprove them, they will forever remain as facts.
Sorry, that's not how reality works bro.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
(August 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: These things I'm saying here are not excuses--they are facts and unless you can disprove them, they will forever remain as facts.
Sorry, that's not how reality works bro.
But at least try to prove me wrong and why I should believe otherwise.
(August 4, 2014 at 1:35 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Sorry, that's not how reality works bro.
But at least try to prove me wrong and why I should believe otherwise.
Again, that's not how shit works. You don't just pick things to believe and then ask people to 'prove you wrong'. You can pull any random belief out of your ass and make it unfalsifiable, and according to you, it'd be a 'fact'. You withold belief in something until the case is made, not vice versa.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
I'm way better than all of you, so why are we even having this conversation?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
(August 4, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: But at least try to prove me wrong and why I should believe otherwise.
Again, that's not how shit works. You don't just pick things to believe and then ask people to 'prove you wrong'. You can pull any random belief out of your ass and make it unfalsifiable, and according to you, it'd be a 'fact'. You withold belief in something until the case is made, not vice versa.
So maybe perhaps instead of trying to give me reasons as to why I shouldn't believe what I'm saying, you should instead give reasons as to why I shouldn't feel the way I do.
