An atheists guide to reality

[StatCrux]

Alex Rosenberg, (in his book "An atheists guide to reality") at last an honest atheist who admits that ultimately atheism when taken to its logical conclusion leads to lack in intentionality, lack of meaning or purpose in life and nihilism. If only a few more atheists admitted this to the general public we would be a lot better off. The true colours of atheism are coming out.

[Minimalist]

Then he should go kill himself.

[Bad Wolf]

[Mr. Moncrieff]

His views on supervenience are rather flawed.

He has considerations that social hierarchy is predicated upon the simplest forms of natural existence. This position largely excuses us as responsible moral beings and thus encourages a nihilistic outlook on life.

It's rather bleak to hold that regard yes. But he doesn't define all atheists, just as the Westboro Baptists don't represent all of Christianity.

[StatCrux]

His views on supervenience are rather flawed.

He has considerations that social hierarchy is predicated upon the simplest forms of natural existence. This position largely excuses us as responsible moral beings and thus encourages a nihilistic outlook on life.

It's rather bleak to hold that regard yes. But he doesn't define all atheists, just as the Westboro Baptists don't represent all of Christianity.

The problem for atheists is that his position is logically consistent with atheism, its the atheists that try to maintain that intentionality, meaning, purpose in life etc are consistent with atheism that have the problem. I agree with Rosenberg, I just wish other atheists would face the problem and admit that's logically where you end up, empty, meaningless and pointless existence

[Mr. Moncrieff]

When Christians all start admitting that they are focusing their one existence on worshipping a figment of their primeval fear.

A guy in the sky who made them purely because he wanted attention and validation?

A supreme being so understanding of the human inadequacies he imbued, that he would condemn them in a heartbeat for daring to question him?

When that happens.

[Esquilax]

The problem for atheists is that his position is logically consistent with atheism, its the atheists that try to maintain that intentionality, meaning, purpose in life etc are consistent with atheism that have the problem. I agree with Rosenberg, I just wish other atheists would face the problem and admit that's logically where you end up, empty, meaningless and pointless existence

Individually and socially determined meaning is still meaning, it's not invalid because some other people decided to label theirs extra special and omniscient. A lake has no intentionality either, that doesn't sap all the joy out of swimming in it.

You're trying to erect a problem where there isn't one.

[StatCrux]

When Christians all start admitting that they are focusing their one existence on worshipping a figment of their primeval fear.

A guy in the sky who made them purely because he wanted attention and validation?

A supreme being so understanding of the human inadequacies he imbued, that he would condemn them in a heartbeat for daring to question him?

When that happens.

Ah, is this where you get to tell me what I believe? Sky daddy, cannibalism and all other such intellectual pearls of wisdom..

[Minimalist]

His views on supervenience are rather flawed.

He has considerations that social hierarchy is predicated upon the simplest forms of natural existence. This position largely excuses us as responsible moral beings and thus encourages a nihilistic outlook on life.

It's rather bleak to hold that regard yes. But he doesn't define all atheists, just as the Westboro Baptists don't represent all of Christianity.

The problem for atheists is that his position is logically consistent with atheism, its the atheists that try to maintain that intentionality, meaning, purpose in life etc are consistent with atheism that have the problem. I agree with Rosenberg, I just wish other atheists would face the problem and admit that's logically where you end up, empty, meaningless and pointless existence

You have obviously confused us with people who give a flying fuck what you think.

[Alex K]

Well StatCrux, I fail to see the great disadvantage of having overcome the simplistic and childish notions of meaning which you seem to advertise, and the reliance on a sense of purpose which has to be provided by some father figure. I call the process of overcoming this "growing up", you know...