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RE: I'll pray for you
October 18, 2014 at 3:32 pm
(October 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Lek Wrote: You're wrong about why people pray for you. They do so because they want the best for you. We pray for everybody, fellow christians, non-christians, friends, enemies, ourselves and on and on.
Yes and no. Praying for the sick, hungry, injured, etc. is often kindly meant, I'm sure. But I remember church prayers for enemies and they always seemed to boil down to "and help Jeremy see the error of his ways." And I often thought the prayers thought that a lightening bolt or two wouldn't go amiss.
Responding to an atheist, with "I'll pray for you," is a little more like I'm afraid to say "fuck you," so I'll just threaten to include you my religion because I know what a treat that will be for you.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 18, 2014 at 3:45 pm
I really don't care if they pray for me, it doesn't help and it doesn't harm me. People just say that as a cop-out of being unable to help the person at all. It makes them feel better.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 18, 2014 at 4:28 pm
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(October 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Lek Wrote: You're wrong about why people pray for you. They do so because they want the best for you. We pray for everybody, fellow christians, non-christians, friends, enemies, ourselves and on and on. Really you can only comment on why YOU personally pray for people. I doubt you honestly know what is going on in every other Christian's head. Though I could be wrong, I'm not sure if you guys got that whole like twin telepathy thing going on or what I haven't been to church in like a decade.
Hey! I just met you... and this is crazy... but I love Satan! Let's kill a baby!
Just sing this to your boss next time you see him and he'll go away. I once told one of my managers at a popular mexican grill I used to work at that, "Oh yes, I feel jesus, I feel him inside of me... thrusting...." and the horrified look on her face was absolutely priceless. However I would never do something like that today in a work setting and I don't suggest you do lol....
You know I am torn on this a little bit. Some part of me really wants to believe that religious people simply mean well when they say this but another part of me thinks that it's their condescending way of saying, "I hope god helps you smarten up and convert.... or else." The former of which is sort of funny and cute in some weird way, but the latter of which pisses me off. I'm not sure if some christians realize how fucking rude they are being when they say certain things. The whole "I'll pray for you" thing isn't necessarily rude in and of itself because I can't be sure of one's intentions while they say it. However some other things that people have said to me are outrageously rude and I honestly doubt they would very much appreciate it if I said some of the things they did but switched around god and magic with facts and science.
All in all, I just try not to let it bother me anymore. Even if they ARE being condescending and rude, that's their insecurity that they have to deal with, and they can live in a fantasy world for as long as they like as far as im concerned. And if you really think that someone is acting with ill intention toward you when they say that, just reply with, "Awwww that's so cute" and proceed to pat them on the head like a cute lil kitten.
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It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 18, 2014 at 5:42 pm
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Quite a few if not most 'prayers' boil down to telling God to get off His fat lazy butt and go do something for me.
Seems like that attitude ain't even remotely 'religious'.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm
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(October 18, 2014 at 2:40 am)Alex K Wrote: (October 18, 2014 at 2:20 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Why are you bothered by a meaningless act, void of repercussions
Maybe because it essentialy translates to: you are broken and need fixing. By us.
And why should that opinion bother you? Do they know you? Live your life the way you want to live, and devil take the hindmost.
I had a drummer in a band once, instead of stenciling the band's name on his kick-drum head, he stenciled this:
Stephen Rude Wrote:Your opinion of me is none of my business.
If someone wants to think I'm broken, that's their problem, not mine.
Besides, my continued atheism in the face of their prayers only demonstrates the uselessness of prayer. Why should that bother me?
I've never made a habit of worrying about the opinions of irrational people, and I wouldn't advise anyone else to do so either.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 19, 2014 at 1:20 am
My reaction to people who tell me they pray for me depends on the person and the circumstance. Some people mean it as a way of saying that they genuinely care for me and wish me the best (as they understand it). To such people, I reply graciously. However, some people say such things as a form of passive-aggressive superiority, and that insults me no end. Those people get both fucking barrels.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 19, 2014 at 11:50 am
I always wonder what their motivation is for telling me that they'll pray for me.
That's the part I find suspect.
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 19, 2014 at 12:39 pm
I'd like to respond to the "I'll pray for you's" with "I'll sacrifice a pigeon and sprinkle it's blood on another pigeon for you, you know, in case you have leprosy!"
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm
I've not done it yet, principally because people who know me know not to patronise me in such a silly way; but I've got it in my mind to answer "I'll pray for you" with "Go on, then - let's see you."
After all, I want to be sure they're actually going to follow through, don't I, that it's not merely all wind and stench?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I'll pray for you
October 19, 2014 at 1:51 pm
When someone says they will pray for you they are really saying they aren't going to do anything for you.
If someone wants to help me make it something tangible.
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