"How Can I Be Happy?" - Humanism Refuted

[abaris]

He's not interested in any sort of honest discussion Esqui.

Asshats like dim rarely are.

If this was a typo, it's a very good one.

[dimaniac]

None of this gets you to moral justification.

I'm talking about logical justification. Moral is subjective

[Faith No More]

What's an "aniac?"

I agree that whatever it is, though, you are a dim one.

[FatAndFaithless]

You're wrong on both fronts then. What point are you trying to make, anyway?

[Esquilax]

Serial rapists have higher chance of passing on genes than a father of two.

Which means exactly nothing, if those genes don't survive to adulthood to propagate themselves, which rape reduces the likelihood of overall. Additionally, rapists tend to get, you know, caught and thrown in jail at higher rates than non rapists, which also affects their chances of sowing those oats. Oh, and also? Women who distrust potential mates tend to be less available around those mates overall, and what do you think rape does to trust levels?

And that's just ignoring the most important point of all, which is that the human species evolved as a cooperative one, and rape destabilizes the group dynamic that allows us to survive. We are a social species; anti-social behavior like rape is inherently a disadvantageous trait among species for whom banding together is an ecological niche.

You really are being an idiot here. That's not surprising, of course.

That means that if you cant support a family for cultural/economic reasons(e.g. Japan) then rape is your only option.

So what I'm reading here is that you advocate rape. Gotcha, us sane people will be sure to steer clear of taking your advice in future.

[LostLocke]

That means that if you cant support a family for cultural/economic reasons(e.g. Japan) then rape is your only option.

So what I'm reading here is that you advocate rape. Gotcha, us sane people will be sure to steer clear of taking your advice in future.

He advocates rape but doesn't do it because God says not to. (Despite the fact that God condones and encourages rape throughout the Bible.)
My assumption would be that if God permanently vanished tomorrow, and all afterlife was taken off the table, he would be out raping since there would be no reason not to.

[dimaniac]

Additionally, rapists tend to get, you know, caught and thrown in jail at higher rates than non rapists

Not really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Swe...ction_rate

In 2009, Amnesty International published a report on rape in the Nordic countries, criticizing the low conviction rates in Sweden, citing previously published estimates from Brå of around 30,000 incidents of rape, with less than 13 percent of the 3,535 rape crimes reported resulting in a decision to start legal proceedings and 216 persons convicted in 2007.

So what I'm reading here is that you advocate rape.

No, I'm just exposing atheist logic.

[FatAndFaithless]

I don't know any atheist that uses that brand of "logic", dimmy. Care to actually address us on our actual beliefs or are you just going to admit to being dishonest, again, and having no intent for an honest discussion?

[Napoléon]

No, I'm just exposing atheist logic.

Says a lot more about your own logic that you think people need the threat of a divine power watching over them in order to stop them from going out raping people.

[Chad32]

Of course, you have a valid and sound logical argument that gets you from "it is desirable to pass along one's genes" to "rape is morally justifiable", yes?

It is not just desirable, it is the meaning of life.

There are better ways of passing on genes than forcing sex on people, just like there are better ways to have nice furniture for your house without stealing it.

Buying furniture is not as expensive as supporting family

If that's your meaning of life, that's fine. It isn't mine. If you feel it's so incredibly important to pass on genes while having no responsibilities to the offspring, you can sell your sperm. Like I said, there are better ways than rape.