For Creationists.

[abaris]

excuse me now ill be getting a "kind" of crunchy sugary chocolate bar or maybe cereal because i am to lazy today.

Then you will soon eat the same "Kind" as I have just eaten. Only it was of the cognac filled swiss chocolate version. Now moving on to the beer "kind", I think.

[Smaug]

The bats belong to the same 'kind' as the birds according to the Bible, don't they?

[Thackerie]

The bats belong to the same 'kind' as the birds according to the Bible, don't they?

Bats got wings. They look like birds. And "looks like" is all you need to confirm that a group of disparate living things belong to the same kind, according to our resident scholar. Who are we to argue with such wisdom?

[dyresand]

The bats belong to the same 'kind' as the birds according to the Bible, don't they?

pretty much in reality we class animals by species and sub types.
bible pretty much says that wolf is a kind and a dog is a kind of wolf.
or a red panda is a type of bear. reality red panda is a giant panda and racoon. very rare btw.

[Smaug]

The bats belong to the same 'kind' as the birds according to the Bible, don't they?

pretty much in reality we class animals by species and sub types.
bible pretty much says that wolf is a kind and a dog is a kind of wolf.
or a red panda is a type of bear. reality red panda is a giant panda and racoon. very rare btw.

The purpose of any classification system is to set up an equivalence relation in a set of entities. It's obvious that almost everyone consciously or unconsciously invents or adopts all sorts of classifications. But when professionals set up a classification system and construct an equivalence relation in an applied field (such as Biology) they try to choose the most adequate and up to date comparison properties (good to point out here that for a non-professional these properties may seem obscure or irrelevant). Also they try to make it as objective as possible. On the other hand, fundamentalists rely on Bronze Age knowledge and subjectivism. In conjunction with the fact that they are heavily indoctrinated they literaly aren't above Bronze Age people when it comes to their general world view and their attitude towards science. That's why they have this primitive notion of 'kinds' and aren't going to abandon it for the sake of more up to date and precise knowledge.

[ThomM]

Not that I expect any of our creationist buddies to read it, but here's what evolution is about. In this case, the common ancestor and the differences between humans and african apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolu...y_genetics

Just to prevent the all too common, but fundamentally stupid question of why there are still apes.

Obviously - there are still apes - we call them religious today