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Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God

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Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 8:18 am
Well then what's the point in asking if they're anything more than that when they're not? They're just concepts
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 8:20 am
yes, exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just concepts, not science.
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 8:24 am
Concepts can be measured in the brain scientifically, if not yet maybe they can in future
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 8:33 am
maybe evf, maybe, but for now, no. this is all i have been saying.
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 8:42 am (This post was last modified: July 23, 2010 at 9:15 am by Scented Nectar.)
(July 23, 2010 at 7:56 am)Cecco Wrote: scented nector, i have never denied that memes are concepts. so calm down.
That only makes me wonder what your crazy definition for the word 'concept' must be, since at the least you don't think memes are real, whatever 'real' means to you, that is....
(July 23, 2010 at 8:24 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Concepts can be measured in the brain scientifically, if not yet maybe they can in future
They can be partially measured and/or statistics gathered now in ways like, seeing how popular and widespread they are, analysing how they affect human behaviour patterns, categorizing them into units and subunits (eg; god-belief unit with individual religion subunits) showing any components/clustering of ideas within a meme, tracking changes over time, looking at their relationships/interactions/compatablity with other current memes, and by analysing the different ways that meme selection happens (eg: one might have been forced by law on a society while another one becomes popular due its pleasurability), etc. Just not the type of measurements in the physical measuring cup sense that I think Cecco must be meaning.
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Sounds to me that perhaps we should have a science of memetics? Big Grin

What would it go under? Some combination of neurology and psychology or something?
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 2:10 pm
(July 23, 2010 at 1:24 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Sounds to me that perhaps we should have a science of memetics? Big Grin

What would it go under? Some combination of neurology and psychology or something?
Those two sound essential for sure. I would add maybe sociology, and a touch of archeology (where it concerns how ancient memes affected those cultures in rituals, art, whatever...).
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 2:11 pm
What about...Anthropology?
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 2:15 pm
(July 23, 2010 at 2:11 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: What about...Anthropology?

A bit of math could help too Smile
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RE: Richard Dawkins Faith In Memes Is As Blind As A Christian's to God
July 23, 2010 at 2:16 pm
And the absence of Cecco.
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