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(January 28, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Drich Wrote: I've allready conceed the fact that what I said here does not regester as evidence that it did happen. I am pointing out that the Exodus account is plausible. Just as all of the other 'historical' stories of cities, and men lost to the desert with absolutly no evidence.

Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

Of course, there may have been some real events that inspired the myth of Exodus.
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(January 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Drich Wrote: I've allready conceed the fact that what I said here does not regester as evidence that it did happen. I am pointing out that the Exodus account is plausible. Just as all of the other 'historical' stories of cities, and men lost to the desert with absolutly no evidence.

Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

Of course, there may have been some real events that inspired the myth of Exodus.

Almost the same way J.K. Rowling may have been inspired to by some events in her life to write Harry Potter, witchcraft-supporting, Devil's
story that it is.
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(January 28, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Roxy904 Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

Of course, there may have been some real events that inspired the myth of Exodus.

Almost the same way J.K. Rowling may have been inspired to by some events in her life to write Harry Potter, witchcraft-supporting, Devil's
story that it is.

Kind of sad to see those books are banned because of fuck wits saying it has devil worship and or stuff pertaining to the devil in it.
If that's the case the bible should be a banned book too with all of its needless killing murders and the use of magic doing bad such as killing billions of people in a almost instant with a world wide flood.
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(January 28, 2015 at 6:37 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Roxy904 Wrote: Almost the same way J.K. Rowling may have been inspired to by some events in her life to write Harry Potter, witchcraft-supporting, Devil's
story that it is.

Kind of sad to see those books are banned because of fuck wits saying it has devil worship and or stuff pertaining to the devil in it.
If that's the case the bible should be a banned book too with all of its needless killing murders and the use of magic doing bad such as killing billions of people in a almost instant with a world wide flood.

Where are they banned?
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(January 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

I'm curious as to this 'manna'; what it supposedly was and where it cane from. I wonder if Drich subscribes to the Velikovsky idea that it was a by-product of the planet Venus, after it was birthed from Jupiter's Great Red Spot and went bouncing arong the Solar System like every shot I make in a game of pool? Supposedly, it passed by Earth twice, the first time causing the Red Sea to divide (because, y'know - gravity is magic) then later, when it made chemical changes in our atmosphere and magically invented this edible, nourishing 'manna' which fell out of the clouds just where and when the script needed it.
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(January 28, 2015 at 7:20 pm)Chas Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 6:37 pm)dyresand Wrote: Kind of sad to see those books are banned because of fuck wits saying it has devil worship and or stuff pertaining to the devil in it.
If that's the case the bible should be a banned book too with all of its needless killing murders and the use of magic doing bad such as killing billions of people in a almost instant with a world wide flood.

Where are they banned?

The Trouble with Magic
One school to ban Harry Potter was St. Mary's Island Church of England school in Chatham, Kent. Head teacher Carol Rockwood explained that "The Bible is very clear and consistent in its teachings that wizards, devils and demons exist and are very real, powerful and dangerous and God's people are told to have nothing to do with them." She added that "I believe it is confusing to children when something wicked is being made to look fun."

Rockwood is not alone. Her opinion is shared by others who believe that real witchcraft exists, and that all witches are evil. They fear that any books which have good witches or good magic—like the Harry Potter series—will lead people not to take the threat of real witchcraft seriously, and possibly lead them to take the Bible's teachings in general more lightly. They might even lead readers to become witches themselves.

Others disagree. Some point out that Harry Potter is a fantasy, not a true story, and claim that even children know the difference between the two. Whether or not there is such a thing as evil magic in real life, it has nothing at all to do with the made-up spells and potions found in the books. As an editorial in Christian Century put it, "...critics are right in thinking that fantasy writing is powerful and needs to be taken seriously. But we strongly doubt that it fosters an attachment to evil powers. Harry's world, in any case, is a moral one."

Setting a Bad Example
Some people find the Harry Potter books to be inappropriate reading because of the way Harry and his friends behave. Some note that Harry "lies, breaks rules, and disobeys authority figures, including the professors at Hogwarts," and that he ends up being rewarded and praised for his actions. They feel that heroes should be entirely good people who do as they're told and respect others.

Others feel that Harry's rule infractions are part of a long tradition in storytelling. A bit of rule-bending is necessary to get to a story outside of the ordinary, they say, but children can understand that behavior that makes a good story is different from behavior that's good in general. They also point out that Harry's rule-breaking does not go without any punishment. And some note, as Mike Hertenstein does in his review of the first Potter film, that "much of Harry's rule-breaking... involves the principle of disobeying a lower law to keep a higher one—not to say he's Rosa Parks, but who could criticize Harry's violation of the no-fly rule to broom his way over a bully and stand up for his friends?"

Finally, some believe that even heroes aren't perfect; Harry and his friends may do some things wrong, but they are positive role models on the whole, working selflessly for all that's good and noble.

Scary Stuff
Some people think that the Harry Potter books—especially the later ones—are too dark and scary for children to handle. The series begins as Harry is orphaned, and he soon learns his parents were violently killed. There are intense battles. Good people die, suddenly and horribly. This, some say, is the stuff of nightmares, not something to be handed to kids as entertainment.

Others feel that children can handle more than they're sometimes given credit for. Some even feel that reading scary stories is one safe way kids learn how to deal with the reality of death. At any rate, they say, there is a long tradition of gruesome ghost stories, scary fairy tales, and sad novels for children. Such diverse classics as The Red Badge of Courage, Little Women, Charlotte's Web, and The Hobbit all include the deaths of major characters. Harry Potter fits right in.


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Exodus is about as plausible as the hypothesis that aliens killed JFK with rotten mangos.

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(January 29, 2015 at 1:44 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Exodus is about as plausible as the hypothesis the aliens killed JFK with rotten mangos.

I'd say by the way they got Harry Potter banned through their own criteria the bible fits it better than Harry Potter does because of the bad use of magic and the bad decisions everyone including fucking god makes.
Because i can say this it takes 40 years for characters to roam the desert while in reality only 2 weeks for romans. Everyone is fucking stupid the supposed creator of everything is a fucking moron. And don't get me
started on the desert dwelling idiots he calls his chosen people. Out of all the characters i actually felt bad for was Job he was fucked by god over a petty bet with the devil. The only smart one by the way is Lucifer because
he is like you god i wan't no part of this bullshit anymore after the whole OT deal. - rant over.
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Well, yes ,the entire thrust of the Pentateuch is that seeking knowledge and thinking for yourself are both deadly sins.

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(January 28, 2015 at 8:59 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 7:20 pm)Chas Wrote: Where are they banned?

The Trouble with Magic
One school to ban Harry Potter was St. Mary's Island Church of England school in Chatham, Kent. Head teacher Carol Rockwood explained that "The Bible is very clear and consistent in its teachings that wizards, devils and demons exist and are very real, powerful and dangerous and God's people are told to have nothing to do with them." She added that "I believe it is confusing to children when something wicked is being made to look fun."

Rockwood is not alone. Her opinion is shared by others who believe that real witchcraft exists, and that all witches are evil. They fear that any books which have good witches or good magic—like the Harry Potter series—will lead people not to take the threat of real witchcraft seriously, and possibly lead them to take the Bible's teachings in general more lightly. They might even lead readers to become witches themselves.

Others disagree. Some point out that Harry Potter is a fantasy, not a true story, and claim that even children know the difference between the two. Whether or not there is such a thing as evil magic in real life, it has nothing at all to do with the made-up spells and potions found in the books. As an editorial in Christian Century put it, "...critics are right in thinking that fantasy writing is powerful and needs to be taken seriously. But we strongly doubt that it fosters an attachment to evil powers. Harry's world, in any case, is a moral one."

Setting a Bad Example
Some people find the Harry Potter books to be inappropriate reading because of the way Harry and his friends behave. Some note that Harry "lies, breaks rules, and disobeys authority figures, including the professors at Hogwarts," and that he ends up being rewarded and praised for his actions. They feel that heroes should be entirely good people who do as they're told and respect others.

Others feel that Harry's rule infractions are part of a long tradition in storytelling. A bit of rule-bending is necessary to get to a story outside of the ordinary, they say, but children can understand that behavior that makes a good story is different from behavior that's good in general. They also point out that Harry's rule-breaking does not go without any punishment. And some note, as Mike Hertenstein does in his review of the first Potter film, that "much of Harry's rule-breaking... involves the principle of disobeying a lower law to keep a higher one—not to say he's Rosa Parks, but who could criticize Harry's violation of the no-fly rule to broom his way over a bully and stand up for his friends?"

Finally, some believe that even heroes aren't perfect; Harry and his friends may do some things wrong, but they are positive role models on the whole, working selflessly for all that's good and noble.

Scary Stuff
Some people think that the Harry Potter books—especially the later ones—are too dark and scary for children to handle. The series begins as Harry is orphaned, and he soon learns his parents were violently killed. There are intense battles. Good people die, suddenly and horribly. This, some say, is the stuff of nightmares, not something to be handed to kids as entertainment.

Others feel that children can handle more than they're sometimes given credit for. Some even feel that reading scary stories is one safe way kids learn how to deal with the reality of death. At any rate, they say, there is a long tradition of gruesome ghost stories, scary fairy tales, and sad novels for children. Such diverse classics as The Red Badge of Courage, Little Women, Charlotte's Web, and The Hobbit all include the deaths of major characters. Harry Potter fits right in.


source http://www.infoplease.com/spot/banned-harry.html

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