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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 6, 2015 at 3:37 pm
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(February 4, 2015 at 11:41 am)Hoopington Wrote: (January 16, 2015 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote: Bottom line of this theory is that the bible doesn't provide a time line between the last day of creation and the day of the fall of man. The rest is indeed speculation and how it all COULD have worked out. But in the end with no given time line between the end of the seven days of creation and the day of the fall of man. The whole fossil record could be accounted for.
Quite brilliantly, you are demonstrating why you can get so many wildly differing ways to believe in the same shit. The books that people like you base their entire lives on are so incredibly vague that nearly any interpretation is viable.
In this respect, you are no different to those who have joined ISIS.....actually, a little different, at least there are actual passages supporting their actions....you, on the other hand, are just making shit up.
You really don't understand why people join groups like ISIS, or The Crusades or any 'religious reasoned hate.'
It's not about God or faith, its about using faith to justify anger and blood lust. It a rallying cry for the self righteous to feel justified in whatever they want to do. Their religions are ways of seemingly justifying unjust acts before God.
(February 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (February 4, 2015 at 9:26 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: I agree with the points in your post, but I quoted your comments about assuming Drich's claims.
I think what you mean by "assuming Drich is right". is putting much confidence in Drich's claims? I agree with that.
Of course we need to assume Drich's claims are true to design experiments that might falsify his claims. That is what I mean when I say "assuming Drich is right".
No, we need not assume his claims are true in order to test them.
I'm not tring to sell you on my claim, What I've said from the beginning is that what has happen to me God offers to all of you. (most of you, sorry minnie  )
Just kidding minnie
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 6, 2015 at 8:20 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2015 at 8:21 pm by watchamadoodle.)
I was surprised to learn that Catholics have a fairly traditional understanding of the stories in Genesis. I'll include some quotes from a Catholic website, but I think Drich might be in agreement with some of these ideas even though he isn't a Catholic.
This quote reminds me of Drich's distinction between homo-monkeyus (without a soul) and homo-gardenus (with a soul):
Quote:Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching. It allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul. Pope Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God" (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36).
This statement about the six days of creation seems to give lip service to Biblical inerrancy:
Quote:It is impossible to dismiss the events of Genesis 1 as a mere legend. They are accounts of real history, even if they are told in a style of historical writing that Westerners do not typically use.
Here is the view on Adam and Eve which seems far more literal than I expected:
Quote:The story of the creation and fall of man is a true one, even if not written entirely according to modern literary techniques. The Catechism states, "The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents" (CCC 390).
Here is the source for the above quotes:
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/adam-eve-and-evolution
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 12:57 am
I won't bicker at ll the minor details, but I'd say more or less they are on the right track. I think what they are missing is my end of creation/fall of man no time line theory to tie it all together...
Anyone know how to email the pope?
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 2:47 am
(February 6, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Drich Wrote: (February 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: No, we need not assume his claims are true in order to test them.
I'm not tring to sell you on my claim, What I've said from the beginning is that what has happen to me God offers to all of you. (most of you, sorry minnie )
Just kidding minnie
Well, that's a good thing, because he and I were talking about the requirements of the scientific method, and we all know that your claim has no basis in reality.
I have tested the god hypothesis, found it wanting, and disposed of it as an answer. Thanks anyway.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: February 7, 2015 at 11:00 am by watchamadoodle.)
(February 7, 2015 at 12:57 am)Drich Wrote: I won't bicker at ll the minor details, but I'd say more or less they are on the right track. I think what they are missing is my end of creation/fall of man no time line theory to tie it all together...
Anyone know how to email the pope?
Here you go:
http://www.wikihow.com/Address-the-Pope
The address is [email protected] 
P.S. You might want to proofread for typos, because I'm sure the Pope is persnickety about spelling (being infallible). 
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 11:04 am
(February 7, 2015 at 12:57 am)Drich Wrote: Anyone know how to email the pope? Ask god.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 11:05 am
If the pope is as clever as he wants you to think he can read your emails out of your head with his magic hat.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 7, 2015 at 11:35 am
(February 7, 2015 at 12:57 am)Drich Wrote: Anyone know how to email the pope?
Might want to learn how spell first.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 8, 2015 at 1:34 am
(February 6, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Drich Wrote: You really don't understand why people join groups like ISIS, or The Crusades or any 'religious reasoned hate.'
It's not about God or faith, its about using faith to justify anger and blood lust. It a rallying cry for the self righteous to feel justified in whatever they want to do. Their religions are ways of seemingly justifying unjust acts before God.
They are doing the same thing like the modern day christian crusades they are spreading a illogical belief system through ignorance and fear and through the sword(modern day weapons). Little do ISIS know that type of behavior and mindset do not belong in a modern day age and for that most of the world hates them and want's them eliminated for good. They get upset over a picture of mo hammed but you christians do not get upset over a statue or picture of jesus so atleast... you have your bigots you just don't go melodramatic over anything unless its really challenges your faith.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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RE: Creation/evolution3
February 8, 2015 at 5:16 am
I want to read Drich's email to the pope.
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