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So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
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RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
(February 8, 2015 at 2:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: What is it about being an American Christian and taking the stupid side in every debate?
We have some Christians over here who can still use their brain why does this not make it across the pond?

I keep telling people here man, it is all a conspiracy by the americans for us to think they are that stupid.

But I see trough their ruse.
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#52
RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
Everything's a fucking conspiracy.

We had this guy on here a while back saying the whole of education, worldwide is a conspiracy. Against what, I'm not sure.
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#53
RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
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RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
(February 8, 2015 at 11:38 am)professor Wrote: This morning my wife was reading a report from a medical doctor showing the lying done by the the establishment about measles.
He pointed out that the public is hearing trumped up statistics and that the highest rates of measles are found in areas with the highest levels of inoculation.
He pointed out measles cases are basically unchanged year by year, but the rate of autism is on the moon.
For every case of measles (which people get over in a week or 2) there are thousands of cases of autism.
Not a word is said. Why?
Maybe it is because autism has been linked to vaccinations.

How much pull do the pharmas have in America?
I am always amazed how you guys fail to follow the money, and swallow every bit of horseshit the establishment throws your way.
They couldn't pull off hysteria about Ebola, so they are trying something else?
Is there anything they tell you that you don't believe?
Lay it on me- I want to here it.
Happy too. Would you like me to rip apart some research for you, or find you some direct naughtiness done by a drug company.
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RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
(February 7, 2015 at 5:15 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The Americans took it and ran with it.
It probably looked like a pair of scissors, then.

(February 8, 2015 at 2:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: What is it about being an American Christian and taking the stupid side in every debate?
I think it's part of the same mindset; I have managed to pierce the veil that covers everyone else's eyes and seen the truth! That makes me special!
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#56
RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
(February 8, 2015 at 11:38 am)professor Wrote: This morning my wife was reading a report from a medical doctor showing the lying done by the the establishment about measles.
He pointed out that the public is hearing trumped up statistics and that the highest rates of measles are found in areas with the highest levels of inoculation.
He pointed out measles cases are basically unchanged year by year, but the rate of autism is on the moon.
For every case of measles (which people get over in a week or 2) there are thousands of cases of autism.
Not a word is said. Why?
Maybe it is because autism has been linked to vaccinations.

How much pull do the pharmas have in America?
I am always amazed how you guys fail to follow the money, and swallow every bit of horseshit the establishment throws your way.
They couldn't pull off hysteria about Ebola, so they are trying something else?
Is there anything they tell you that you don't believe?
Lay it on me- I want to here it.

Before we even start, how about citation from this "medical doctor"? A link to his paper, a name? Anything.

Secondly all this "vaccinations cause autism" stuff is just absolute nonsense.

Do you know why there are more categorised cases of autism now, percentage wise, the there were previously? Because new medical procedures have identified new classes of autism and many other behavioural disorders have been RECLASSIFIED as autism.

That's something that you won't hear your anti-vaxxer heroes, like that highly educated medical professional Jenny McCarthy.

I can't seem to remember where she got her medical degree from. Oh wait, wasn't it at the University of Playboy Mansion?

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RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
(February 9, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Beccs Wrote: That's something that you won't hear your anti-vaxxer heroes, like that highly educated medical professional Jenny McCarthy.

I can't seem to remember where she got her medical degree from. Oh wait, wasn't it at the University of Playboy Mansion?

Don't forget Andrew Wakefield, with his medical degree from Medical-Degree-Revoked-For-Professional-Dishonesty-And-Child-Abuse University! The anti-vaccine movement is just filled with prestigious individuals!
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#58
RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
I agree with Bill Maher about ONE thing.

Skepticism of government and big Pharma shouldn't be vilified. People should be skeptics about everything.

Under no circumstances is that the end of it though. This is what bugs me about all the bullshit conspiracy garbage Maher spouted off on his show Friday. It was that it's okay to be a skeptic and that's it.

The natural conclusion of skepticism is that the question is just the beginning. You don't just stop there. The questions is what leads you on a search for the answer. I am absolutely skeptical of Big Pharma. I have also read peer reviewed articles which attest to the efficacy of vaccination and the idea of herd immunity. So my skepticism about vaccinations is quelled.

This mislabelling of continued ignorance/incredulity as skepticism is something Bill Maher should be ashamed of.
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(February 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm)Chas Wrote:
(February 7, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Nestor Wrote: Of course. I'm not saying people shouldn't get vaccines or that, as Chas says, they're not proven highly effective. I'm saying people have good reason not to trust the medical establishment or the government so when the focus is pressuring people to get vaccinated (not coercing them) it should primarily involve restoring their own credibility, conducting better efforts to inform the public, and dispelling false information.

Wait, what? I'm quite sure I said vaccines have been proven effective. Thinking

(February 7, 2015 at 7:24 am)Chas Wrote: The effectiveness of vaccines in controlling disease has been demonstrated beyond doubt.


Why, yes I did. Smile



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RE: So It Seems the Anti-Vax Crowd
Conan's looking to capitalize on the anti-vax crowd early.

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