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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 9:44 am
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(February 16, 2015 at 9:38 am)Hoopington Wrote: (February 16, 2015 at 9:29 am)Riketto Wrote: And you claim that you got evidence?
Are you serious surgen?
You can't even understand how the universal system works so what evidence can you ever offer?
Can a body function without the head?
Not even a zombie could go around without a head in place.
The reason why i keep on saying that well before you try to know the external reality you should try to know yourself.
Just look at yourself before you look externally.
The universe function the same way as your body.
A body is not composed only of matter, water, energy, air a space to contain the whole but also of mind and consciousness.
The universe is also composed of matter, water, light, air and space but could really function without a mind and a consciousness?
If our body can not function without a mind and consciousness why the universe could?
Both entity are composed of the same elements so why one can not function without a mind and consciousness and the other doesn't need mind and consciousness.
You never thought about it surgen, didn't you mate? ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
Riiiiggggghht, so, by that reckoning, I could say a rock has a consciousness, as it's made up of the same constituent parts.
But that would be fucking stupid. That is, in fact, what he/she is claiming... that gravity is not simply a force, but a conscious one, perhaps thinking to itself, "I will ensure that object X is attracted to object Y each time in exactly the same way."
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 9:55 am
(February 15, 2015 at 5:51 pm)rasetsu Wrote: @Riketto:
Did Sarkar have total peace of mind?
Did or does?
He left his body years ago but i believe that the consciousness is still alive and well so to me Sarkar does have total peace of mind although Sarkar body doesn't exist anymore.
I understand that to you must be a total laughing matter but who care after all.
We all go into different direction.
If you are happy with the way you are going go head but i doubt very much considering the way you carry on.
Ok, now that i have answered your question can you answer mine.
Just read my previous post and tell me whether the universal body can exist without a mind and a consciousness.
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 9:58 am
(February 13, 2015 at 7:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Considering that you know all about the seed of spiritual life can you please explain the little Rik what sort of food you feed the seed with in order to make it sprout unless of course in your watering there is also a mixture of food?
That's either a trick question or proof of your ignorance. THE SEED OF SPIRITUAL LIFE DOES NOT NEED FOOD. You nourish it with water from the well of dreams. It is a good thing you can't get anywhere near to the seed of spiritual life or you would end the universe as we know it. My goodness, please lock yourself in a room and don't touch anything else, okay?
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:05 am
Just popped in because I realised I haven't called anyone a pretentious cunt in ages. Rik, you're a pretentious cunt.
That is all. Carry on.
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2015 at 10:24 am by Little Rik.)
(February 16, 2015 at 9:38 am)Hoopington Wrote: (February 16, 2015 at 9:29 am)Riketto Wrote: And you claim that you got evidence?
Are you serious surgen?
You can't even understand how the universal system works so what evidence can you ever offer?
Can a body function without the head?
Not even a zombie could go around without a head in place.
The reason why i keep on saying that well before you try to know the external reality you should try to know yourself.
Just look at yourself before you look externally.
The universe function the same way as your body.
A body is not composed only of matter, water, energy, air a space to contain the whole but also of mind and consciousness.
The universe is also composed of matter, water, light, air and space but could really function without a mind and a consciousness?
If our body can not function without a mind and consciousness why the universe could?
Both entity are composed of the same elements so why one can not function without a mind and consciousness and the other doesn't need mind and consciousness.
You never thought about it surgen, didn't you mate? ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
Riiiiggggghht, so, by that reckoning, I could say a rock has a consciousness, as it's made up of the same constituent parts.
But that would be fucking stupid.
If you consider that the rock consciousness is in a dormant stage that it is not stupid at all.
Consciousness goes in degree.
It can be low near zero like in a rock or can be 100% consciousness as in God.
Who told you that the same consciousness in a rock is the same in a plant or in an animal or in a human being or in the cosmic consciousness mind?
You jump to conclusion far too quickly and in this way you fail badly.
Among the rocks or the mineral in general there are different degree of consciousness.
Take uranium.
The consciousness within had enough to be inactive and in a bondage.
After million of years in bondage the consciousness within want be free that is why uranium and other elements show the energy within while most of the rocks do not.
(February 16, 2015 at 10:05 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Just popped in because I realised I haven't called anyone a pretentious cunt in ages. Rik, you're a pretentious cunt.
That is all. Carry on.
It is typical of ignorant people to make accusations and then when asked to give an example of shortcoming the ignorant can not come up with any evidence of shortcoming.
Go back in your cave idiot.
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:26 am
And potassium has a temper, gold is aloof and Arsenic has a mean streak. ?
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:31 am
(February 16, 2015 at 9:58 am)Tonus Wrote: (February 13, 2015 at 7:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Considering that you know all about the seed of spiritual life can you please explain the little Rik what sort of food you feed the seed with in order to make it sprout unless of course in your watering there is also a mixture of food?
That's either a trick question or proof of your ignorance. THE SEED OF SPIRITUAL LIFE DOES NOT NEED FOOD. You nourish it with water from the well of dreams. It is a good thing you can't get anywhere near to the seed of spiritual life or you would end the universe as we know it. My goodness, please lock yourself in a room and don't touch anything else, okay? ![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif)
Once again you show your total ignorance.
How can you feed the consciousness with dreams?
Dreams are like farts.
There is nothing in them.
So nothing produce nothing while consciousness is something.
Please Ton stop masturbating your mind in farting dreams. ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif) ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:35 am
(February 16, 2015 at 10:18 am)Riketto Wrote: Go back in your cave idiot. ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The cave didn't like that you called him an idiot...
And it has a name! Jacob, what's your cave's name?
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:42 am
(February 16, 2015 at 10:31 am)Riketto Wrote: Once again you show your total ignorance.
How can you feed the consciousness with dreams? Dreams are the source of the most robust metaphysical energy. Without dreams the universe becomes weak and almost immaterial, because the seed of life uses that energy to infuse the material world with substance.
I fear for your eternal soul if you continue to go down this blasphemous path! You must stop and listen for the gurgling of the stream of dreams at the very edge of your peripheral subconscious! The universe does not take kindly to what you are doing!!!
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RE: If
February 16, 2015 at 10:51 am
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(February 16, 2015 at 10:35 am)pocaracas Wrote: (February 16, 2015 at 10:18 am)Riketto Wrote: Go back in your cave idiot. ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The cave didn't like that you called him an idiot...
And it has a name! Jacob, what's your cave's name? Simon. And no, it is but PISSED :p.
It's also crowded with all the conscious rocks! In bondage. Filthy bitches.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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