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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 1:35 am
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(February 23, 2015 at 7:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: So.... remember that I'm looking at this from the outside... what did Obama do?
It's called "dog whistle politics". You can't use the n-word anymore so some invent ways of saying it without saying it.
Imagine that scene from "Blazing Saddles" where the Sheriff rides into Rock Ridge for the first time. The town church is ringing a bell as the new sheriff approaches. Variation on that theme with "president" replacing "sheriff".
"The President is a n-" *BONG*
"What did he say?"
"He said the President is a socialist"
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"I still can't hear him."
"He said the President isn't really a citizen of the United States."
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"Are you sure that's what he said?"
"I thought I heard him say the President doesn't really love this country and isn't really one of us."
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 1:47 am
Quote:“From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years. No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide.”
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For all of our 'land of the free and home of the brave' bullshit, we have thrown it all away in the name of "security."
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 4:34 am
(February 24, 2015 at 1:35 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (February 23, 2015 at 7:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: So.... remember that I'm looking at this from the outside... what did Obama do?
It's called "dog whistle politics". You can't use the n-word anymore so some invent ways of saying it without saying it.
Imagine that scene from "Blazing Saddles" where the Sheriff rides into Rock Ridge for the first time. The town church is ringing a bell as the new sheriff approaches. Variation on that theme with "president" replacing "sheriff".
"The President is a n-" *BONG*
"What did he say?"
"He said the President is a socialist"
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"I still can't hear him."
"He said the President isn't really a citizen of the United States."
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"Are you sure that's what he said?"
"I thought I heard him say the President doesn't really love this country and isn't really one of us."
...
...hmmm, maybe if your guy, barack, would appear more engaged when one of our American hostages is beheaded by ISIS instead of running off to the golf course maybe there wouldn't be any questions about his patriotism or his courage.
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 5:52 am
(February 24, 2015 at 4:34 am)A Theist Wrote: ...hmmm, maybe if your guy, barack, would appear more engaged when one of our American hostages is beheaded by ISIS instead of running off to the golf course maybe there wouldn't be any questions about his patriotism or his courage.
~35 thousand deaths on US roads per year and the man goes golfing!!!
He should be actively lobbying (lol, the president lobbying!) for all cars to get off the road!
Cars kill more than terrorists and I see no one outraged at that. In fact, I see policies that encourage people to buying and using more cars... don't you?
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 6:37 am
I knew I would find something profoundly stupid, given the title and the OP, but I had to look anyway. Can't blame anyone else but myself.
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 7:18 am
ISIS is not a assault on Christianty nor on America. ISIS is an assault on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING, that is not with them.
It does not matter if you are muslim, christian, jew, buddist or atheist, or where you come from. They will kill everyone who does not stand behind them (in a burqa). They kill a lot of innocent people, and being upset just because there were also Americans among them is hypocrisy. After all, if an innocent child or adult is killed, does it's nationality really matter?
I disagree with religion, but a "moderate" muslim simply is not the same as an ISIS millitant.
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 7:39 am
(February 23, 2015 at 7:22 am)pocaracas Wrote: So.... remember that I'm looking at this from the outside... what did Obama do?
Apparently, he failed to negotiate with terrorists to ransom american citizens... That's sort of common policy, seeing as some 25% of ISIS income is in the form of ransoms from countries or families which are willing to pay... curiously, it seems, most of those are from "fellow" middle-eastern nations[1].
[1].http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/14/how-d...82607.html
Why is it standard practice not to negotiate with terrorists? If you do, you'll give them an incentive to actively kidnap your citizens. And more terrorists will crop up everywhere someone senses they're close to someone they know will be ransomed.
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 8:02 am
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(February 24, 2015 at 7:18 am)Aisha Wrote: I disagree with religion, but a "moderate" muslim simply is not the same as an ISIS millitant.
On what basis do you you claim that a moderate muslim is different than an Islamic militant that simply hasn't picked up a gun yet? On what bit of islamic theology does your assessment stand?
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 8:15 am
(February 24, 2015 at 4:34 am)A Theist Wrote: (February 24, 2015 at 1:35 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: It's called "dog whistle politics". You can't use the n-word anymore so some invent ways of saying it without saying it.
Imagine that scene from "Blazing Saddles" where the Sheriff rides into Rock Ridge for the first time. The town church is ringing a bell as the new sheriff approaches. Variation on that theme with "president" replacing "sheriff".
"The President is a n-" *BONG*
"What did he say?"
"He said the President is a socialist"
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"I still can't hear him."
"He said the President isn't really a citizen of the United States."
"No, I said the President is a n-" *BONG*
"Are you sure that's what he said?"
"I thought I heard him say the President doesn't really love this country and isn't really one of us."
...
...hmmm, maybe if your guy, barack, would appear more engaged when one of our American hostages is beheaded by ISIS instead of running off to the golf course maybe there wouldn't be any questions about his patriotism or his courage.
When has the USA ever negotiated with terrorists?
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RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
February 24, 2015 at 8:22 am
(February 24, 2015 at 8:15 am)Nope Wrote: (February 24, 2015 at 4:34 am)A Theist Wrote: ...hmmm, maybe if your guy, barack, would appear more engaged when one of our American hostages is beheaded by ISIS instead of running off to the golf course maybe there wouldn't be any questions about his patriotism or his courage.
When has the USA ever negotiated with terrorists?
Ronald Reagan and the Iran Hostage crisis, although technically, he wasn't in office yet.
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