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Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:24 pm
So, here we go with my second thread.
I got thinking about Islam and how they perceive sexuality of men and women. This, as you probably know is probably off the back of what the group ISIS did when they pushed a few men to their deaths from high buildings.
Anyway, back to the main point. It was a few years ago, when the United Kingdom (please correct me if I am wrong) decided to accept that same-sex couples can marry each other. In a liberal society such as ours, it is acceptable and strange for other societies.
So, one day I was working in Paris, where the majority of people who work there are either Moroccans, Algerians or Tunisians. This same day, a woman who is Algerian (Sunni Islam) asked me for my opinion about same sex marriages because I was born in England. I gave my opinion in that, people can do what they like, it is not upto us to tell others what to do. We can have an opinion about it whether it is a good one or a bad one.
I thought I would at least get a "fine, no problem." On the contrary, what I got in fact was the third degree. Especially, when they asked for my opinion about my daughters and if one of them marries another woman. I stated my opinion in that, as far as I'm concerned, they are my flesh and blood, and I will stick by their decision should it ever happen 150%, just like every parent should do. The reaction I got was a an gaping mouth with no words coming out.
With that being said, I also stated that as long as they are happy, then why should I want to spoil their happiness, I am neither a religious nutbag or fascist, although they are fairly similar.
So, with that being said, I find that as far as Islam is concerned, their tolerance towards same-sex marriages or same-sex couples is very, very little to non-existant. It is indeed a fascist religion founded on intolerance towards anyone that is different.
One thing of note, there is in fact a mosque for homosexual men in Paris...  .
So, what are your thoughts, if any at all?
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:34 pm
You got all that from a conversation with a single Muslim ?
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2015 at 4:45 pm by Jenny A.)
That Islam and Christianity and Judaism are all anti gay is not news. What's news, is that it surprised you. I am curious about the homosexual mosque. Got any links? Because that is news.
Are most workers in Paris really Islamic?
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:42 pm
Ok I really need to be an asshole so - Stop putting fascism in the same sentence as Islam because fascism is vastly anti-Islam and to some extent anti-religion 
I agree with Jenny, it's not news that the 3 major monotheistic religions are anti-LGBT and anti-gay
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Most religions have very nervous attitudes towards sex, because it is a much deeper urge than the urge to believe. This is why they try to harness it with structures, in order to control the believer with guilt. This is also why we see sex scandals amongst believers and religious leaders: because they are denying an essential part of their humanity.
Having said that, if some stranger started berating me for my sexual views, I'd advise them to go fuck themselves.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2015 at 4:48 pm by abaris.)
(March 20, 2015 at 4:24 pm)RobertE Wrote: So, with that being said, I find that as far as Islam is concerned, their tolerance towards same-sex marriages or same-sex couples is very, very little to non-existant. It is indeed a fascist religion founded on intolerance towards anyone that is different.
Shocking, indeed. Even more so, since christians tend to be so tolerant and open when it comes to same sex marriage. It's even in their holy book where god says...
Oh, wait a minute. There was something about being an abomination.
Dude, when it comes to Abrahamic religions, they're all the same.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2015 at 4:55 pm by RobertE.)
(March 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 4:24 pm)RobertE Wrote: So, with that being said, I find that as far as Islam is concerned, their tolerance towards same-sex marriages or same-sex couples is very, very little to non-existant. It is indeed a fascist religion founded on intolerance towards anyone that is different.
Shocking, indeed. Even more so, since christians tend to be so tolerant and open when it comes to same sex marriage. It's even in their holy book where god says...
Oh, wait a minute. There was something about being an abomination.
Dude, when it comes to Abrahamic religions, they're all the same.
Oh, so I criticised Islam and somehow Christianism is involved. Got news for you "dude", whenever a religion is criticised, nine times out of ten it is Christianism, so "when it comes to Abrahamic religions, they're all the same."
As for JennyA, here is the link:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/glo...slim-zahed
I am surprised you didn't know this already. As for Islam is fascist, it goes for all Abrahamic religions and not just Islam.
(March 20, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Ok I really need to be an asshole so - Stop putting fascism in the same sentence as Islam because fascism is vastly anti-Islam and to some extent anti-religion
I agree with Jenny, it's not news that the 3 major monotheistic religions are anti-LGBT and anti-gay
Why " need"?
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:56 pm
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(March 20, 2015 at 4:54 pm)RobertE Wrote: so "when it comes to Abrahamic religions, they're all the same."
Yup, pretty much.
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm by ReptilianPeon.)
Well....let's (ask) Ask A Muslim:
And, just to be clear: Even though I don't believe Muhammad was a pedophile, because it's erroneous to use the term against him, I condemn marrying children and think that Muhammad was influenced by secular morality. Although I can accept he was a child abuser, that doesn't mean that he was a pedophile.
And, by the way, I am sure you will be as disgusted as I was when I watched the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaBt_jJES1M
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RE: Islam and sexuallity.
March 20, 2015 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm by RobertE.)
(March 20, 2015 at 4:56 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 4:54 pm)RobertE Wrote: so "when it comes to Abrahamic religions, they're all the same."
Yup, pretty much.
All I wanted to know.
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(March 20, 2015 at 4:59 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Well....let's (ask) Ask A Muslim:
(And, just to be clear: Even though I don't believe Muhammad was a pedophile, because it's erroneous to use the term against him, I condemn marrying children and think that Muhammad was influenced by secular morality).
And, by the way, I am sure you will be as disgusted as I was when I watched the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaBt_jJES1M
I am pretty sure that Pedophilia existed even before religions were even created and was probably rife amongst pagans for sure. Is there a possibility that Mohammed was actually a practicing Jew and got ex-communicated because of such an act with Aisha and decided to start his own religion based on Abrahamic beliefs? Just throwing that out there.
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