In the Line of Duty

[Brakeman]

So you're saying this isn't real?

[dahrling]

So you're saying this isn't real?

I am saying this is not the appropriate thread to discuss whether or not "this is real", and that blaming an entire group of people for the crimes a few commit is libel. 

[AFTT47]

There are two kinds of guilt: Guilt by commission and guilt by omission. So the entire group is guilty.

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I am just hurt by some of these comments because I am a police officer.  I know they weren't intended that way, but it made me feel as if people would be okay if I just got murdered because I wear a badge.  Again, I know that wasn't the intentions of the posters...but still.

We're not talking about you, Jericho.

I have never heard of even a single incident regarding military police. Entirely different system.

[Dystopia]

So you're saying this isn't real?

I am saying this is not the appropriate thread to discuss whether or not "this is real", and that blaming an entire group of people for the crimes a few commit is libel. 

No one is blaming an entire group. Saying X or Y group is Z is not implying the entire group is Z, it is merely stating that, as a general rule, that's what happens. When I say cops are racist, I'm not saying all cops are factually racist, I'm merely implying that institutionally there are racist trends in the police. This is something people should understand fully before making mistakes and using the #NotAllCops hashtag (no one is saying that)

[Cato]

You can air it out in the "Fucking Cops"  thread.

No, we can deal with it here; particularly since in post 15 you established that this thread was in part created as part of the broader conversation to tell the other side of the story. A story that has a plot which clearly escapes you if you think a laundry list of tragic cop killings is the other side of the story. Sad really.

[dahrling]

There are two kinds of guilt: Guilt by commission and guilt by omission. So the entire group is guilty.

If the entire police department is guilty, then they all have either committed a crime, or observed one happen. Again, this is a gross exaggeration, and can be considered libel. 

No one is blaming an entire group. Saying X or Y group is Z is not implying the entire group is Z, it is merely stating that, as a general rule, that's what happens. When I say cops are racist, I'm not saying all cops are factually racist, I'm merely implying that institutionally there are racist trends in the police. This is something people should understand fully before making mistakes and using the #NotAllCops hashtag (no one is saying that)

If what you mean to say is "there are cops that are corrupt", then that's what you say. You mustn't say "all cops are corrupt", because you'd be slandering by saying so. 

[Jericho]

At the end of the day, everyone is overreacting. This thread may have been blown out of proportion, but it is simply meant to be a place to honor the police officers that lost their lives just for wearing a badge. Can we just leave this thread at that please?

No sense in arguing over the morality of some police officers, or trying to justify the actions of civilians who are attempting to seek vengeance. We are all humans...and murder is wrong. The corrupt officers are wrong and are murderers. But so are the civilians who kill officers in a twisted sort of attempted vigilante justice.

As long as we can all recognize that murder on both sides is wrong, then this argument need not go any further.

[A Theist]

You can air it out in the "Fucking Cops"  thread.

No, we can deal with it here; particularly since in post 15 you established that this thread was in part created as part of the broader conversation to tell the other side of the story. A story that has a plot which clearly escapes you if you think a laundry list of tragic cop killings is the other side of the story. Sad really.

There's already two threads on this forum that are dedicated to telling everyone how the bad cops are, "Fucking Cops" and  "When The Fucking Cops Are The Fucking Robbers".   This thread is dedicated those police officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty and to those officers who have faced the perils of their jobs while serving the communities where they work. I'm not going to argue with you about it here. You can go preach to the choir in the other two threads.


Deputy Michael Joe Naylor. Midland County Sheriff's Office, Texas. October 9, 2014.

Sergeant Mike Naylor was shot and killed as he and other deputies served a warrant on a child sexual predator at a home on the 3800 block of North County Road 1247.


The officers attempted to make contact with the man, but he refused to come to the door. Deputies then broke out a window of the home to make visual and verbal contact with the man, but he still refused to come out. As Sergeant Naylor and the man continued to speak, the man suddenly fired a shot, striking the officer in the head.

https://www.odmp.org/officer/22213-serge...joe-naylor

[Cato]

There's already two threads on this forum that are dedicated to telling everyone how the bad cops are, "Fucking Cops" and  "When The Fucking Cops Are The Fucking Robbers".   This thread is dedicated those police officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty and to those officers who have faced the perils of their jobs while serving the communities where they work. I'm not going to argue with you about it here. You can go preach to the choir in the other two threads.

I'm trying to be reasonable here and you are trying to take your ball and go home. You already established that this thread is part of the broader conversation, so it's not a simple memorial. As I've stated before, considering this thread the 'other side' of the conversation suggests that because some police officers are tragically killed in the line of duty that the malfeasance of others is to be tolerated. If for some bizarre reason you simply want to do a body count on 'sides' of the argument, as ridiculous as that sounds, you'll lose.

Your lack of engagement is typical of those that have no problem with the status quo. I find your use of fallen police officers as the 'other side' of the conversation disgusting and severely misplaced. You haven't thought this through.

[Saxmoof]

If you want to make the case that not all cops are bad then fair enough, debatable, but fair enough. Don't try and make it seem as if citizens killing cops is a bigger or more prevalent problem than cops killing citizens

A - When a cop gets killed at least they knew that was a potential risk, if they didn't want to face that risk they could've chose not to be a cop, that option isn't there for black men killed during routine traffic stops
B - When a cop gets killed the perpetrator is always and immediately found guilty and thrown in jail, not so when a cop kills a citizen