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May 18, 2015 at 9:30 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 9:34 am by Regina.)
(May 17, 2015 at 11:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Food made from pig blood contains pork? Who knew?
I know that's what killed me too
Talking bout some "contains pork" girl the whole thing IS pork! lmao
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According to the Quran, it's only the flesh of the swine that is forbidden to eat. The Quran doesn't have to specify individual parts of a pig and could simply say "swine is forbidden" but it doesn't. According to the Quran, organs, hooves, bones and blood from a pig is Halal because only the flesh of the animal is Haram. Then you have these that deny what the Quran says and interpret it to suit their contrived aims.
Well, that's handy. It seems you can't move without bumping into pig products.
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May 18, 2015 at 11:41 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 11:47 am by Napoléon.)
(May 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Then you have these that deny what the Quran says and interpret it to suit their contrived aims.
"these"
You mean, everyone.
(May 18, 2015 at 11:03 am)Stimbo Wrote: Well, that's handy. It seems you can't move without bumping into pig products.
Honestly, in this day and age most of the things we eat have stuff that comes from all kinds of places. I'd say it's virtually impossible to live in the western world and not end up eating/ingesting pork of some kind at some point in your life.
Maybe back in the desert where you have to kill your own goats to survive, but in the world of processed and mass produced ingestible goods it seems like a pointless endeavour.
I mean it's a pointless endeavour anyway, just doubly so when you take what you posted into consideration.
The top comment on the daily mail website made me laugh:
"As a vegetarian, this has horrified me. It's my personal choice not to eat meat and I've always found it easy to avoid meat products. I was aware of gelatine being used in some sweets and yoghurts, and as a result I always check the ingredients before I buy. To find out that meat products are also used in materials as widely diverse as paper, moisturiser and wine I find it personally upsetting, not to mention quite horrific. It appears there is no such thing as a 'natural' product anymore, and as a consumer my choices are being taken away from me."
Another reason as to why I find vegetarians to be naive douchers.
May 18, 2015 at 11:52 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 11:52 am by Cyberman.)
Vegetarians who read the Daily Mail doubly so.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Re: that vegetarian commentor - Natural products? Paper and moisturiser?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
May 18, 2015 at 11:58 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 11:59 am by Prince.)
(May 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: But the funny thing is, Black Pudding is probably actually Halal. I showed that here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-31952.html
According to the Quran, it's only the flesh of the swine that is forbidden to eat. The Quran doesn't have to specify individual parts of a pig and could simply say "swine is forbidden" but it doesn't. According to the Quran, organs, hooves, bones and blood from a pig is Halal because only the flesh of the animal is Haram. Then you have these that deny what the Quran says and interpret it to suit their contrived aims.
Well, sorry to tell you this but its mistranslated. The Arabic text is says "لحم" as "La'hem", which means 'meat', but it also says... you can only eat Swine if you had to, for example if you were starving to death and the only thing u can find is Swine, then u could eat it. The blood is forbidden with all animals, why would someone eat or drink blood? its nasty!
The same verse is also found in the Book of Moses, i think in Deuteronomy.
Actually many Muslims in KSA break the law and eat unhealthy, unlawful animal meat such as Lizards.
The idea of Halal has nothing to do with Health, in fact according to this ridiculous Quranic verse (5:3) “And why should you not eat of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has been pronounced (at the time of slaughtering the animal), while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity?"
There is nothing so special about Halal food, the meat only becomes Halal if you announced the name of Allah while slaughtering a fuckin animal. It will still taste the same as non-halal.
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(May 18, 2015 at 11:58 am)Prince Wrote: Well, sorry to tell you this but its mistranslated. The Arabic text is says "لحم" as "La'hem", which means 'meat', but it also says... you can only eat Swine if you had to, for example if you were starving to death and the only thing u can find is Swine, then u could eat it. The blood is forbidden with all animals, why would someone eat or drink blood? its nasty!
The same verse is also found in the Book of Moses, i think in Deuteronomy.
Actually many Muslims in KSA break the law and eat unhealthy, unlawful animal meat such as Lizards.
The idea of Halal has nothing to do with Health, in fact according to this ridiculous Quranic verse (5:3) “And why should you not eat of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has been pronounced (at the time of slaughtering the animal), while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity?"
There is nothing so special about Halal food, the meat only becomes Halal if you announced the name of Allah while slaughtering a fuckin animal. It will still taste the same as non-halal.
As for the translation, every single translation of the Quran at Quranx translates all of the verses I listed with the words "flesh of swine". There are plenty of verses where the Quran talks about swine, because the Quran likes to repeat itself, and they are all worded slightly differently. And yet, I keep seeing the words "flesh of the swine"
(May 18, 2015 at 12:05 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:
(May 18, 2015 at 11:58 am)Prince Wrote: Well, sorry to tell you this but its mistranslated. The Arabic text is says "لحم" as "La'hem", which means 'meat', but it also says... you can only eat Swine if you had to, for example if you were starving to death and the only thing u can find is Swine, then u could eat it. The blood is forbidden with all animals, why would someone eat or drink blood? its nasty!
The same verse is also found in the Book of Moses, i think in Deuteronomy.
Actually many Muslims in KSA break the law and eat unhealthy, unlawful animal meat such as Lizards.
The idea of Halal has nothing to do with Health, in fact according to this ridiculous Quranic verse (5:3) “And why should you not eat of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has been pronounced (at the time of slaughtering the animal), while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity?"
There is nothing so special about Halal food, the meat only becomes Halal if you announced the name of Allah while slaughtering a fuckin animal. It will still taste the same as non-halal.
As for the translation, every single translation of the Quran at Quranx translates all of the verses I listed with the words "flesh of swine". There are plenty of verses where the Quran talks about swine, because the Quran likes to repeat itself, and they are all worded slightly differently. And yet, I keep seeing the words "flesh of the swine"
flesh could also means meat.
"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..."- Michael Stipe
