[Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II

[WinterHold]

Diving in the Quran more; I have found more evidence indicating that "hell" is actually a "black hole".
Next, are the verses that made me consider this evidence pretty seriously:

1- Hell is a place where inmate "neither live" nor "die":

Sura 35, The Quran:

https://quran.com/35:36?store=false&translations=


As for the disbelievers, they will have the Fire of Hell, where they will not be ˹allowed to be˺ finished by death, nor will its torment be lightened for them. This is how We reward every ˹stubborn˺ disbeliever.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

2- Again, hell's inmate are described as stuck between "life" and "death":

Sura 87, The Quran:

https://quran.com/87:13?font=v1&translations=131%2C20

(11) But it will be shunned by the most wretched,

(12) who will burn in the greatest Fire,

(13) where they will not ˹be able to˺ live or die.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

The only place we know that this fate is possible, is actually a black hole:

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh...0of%20time.

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. For example, an object falling into the hole would appear frozen in time at the edge of the hole.

A theory I have have is that hell is the black hole at the centre of our galaxy.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Diving in the Quran more; I have found more evidence indicating that "hell" is actually a "black hole".
Next, are the verses that made me consider this evidence pretty seriously:

1- Hell is a place where inmate "neither live" nor "die":

Sura 35, The Quran:

https://quran.com/35:36?store=false&translations=


As for the disbelievers, they will have the Fire of Hell, where they will not be ˹allowed to be˺ finished by death, nor will its torment be lightened for them. This is how We reward every ˹stubborn˺ disbeliever.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

2- Again, hell's inmate are described as stuck between "life" and "death":

Sura 87, The Quran:

https://quran.com/87:13?font=v1&translations=131%2C20

(11) But it will be shunned by the most wretched,

(12) who will burn in the greatest Fire,

(13) where they will not ˹be able to˺ live or die.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

The only place we know that this fate is possible, is actually a black hole:

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh...0of%20time.

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. For example, an object falling into the hole would appear frozen in time at the edge of the hole.

A theory I have have is that hell is the black hole at the centre of our galaxy.

Yeah, that's not 'a theory'.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Why do you think that a person inside a black hole neither lives nor dies..and do you ever wonder if you might be having a crisis of faith when you look for scientific explanations for magical acts?

Additionally, I think you're aware that your magic book says an awful lot about hell. Care to toss up another twenty or two hundred descriptions of islamic hell..see if they sound like a black hole to you or anyone? I'm not really sure what to do with this notion other than encourage it, as you could only be insisting that what god meant to explain was a black hole...but somehow managed to consistently fuck it up like a common know nothing. Satan approves of your belief.

[no one]

Can I get some of your hallucinogens?

[Jehanne]

It is only the length of the OP that leads me to believe that you are serious, in any case, it's harmless comedy I suppose.  But, the following is truly funny and worth everyone's time:

[WinterHold]

Why do you think that a person inside a black hole neither lives nor dies..and do you ever wonder if you might be having a crisis of faith when you look for scientific explanations for magical acts?

Additionally, I think you're aware that your magic book says an awful lot about hell.  Care to toss up another twenty or two hundred descriptions of islamic hell..see if they sound like a black hole to you or anyone?  I'm not really sure what to do with this notion other than encourage it, as you could only be insisting that what god meant to explain was a black hole...but somehow managed to consistently fuck it up like a common know nothing.  Satan approves of your belief.

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh...0of%20time.

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. For example, an object falling into the hole would appear frozen in time at the edge of the hole.

[Jehanne]

Why do you think that a person inside a black hole neither lives nor dies..and do you ever wonder if you might be having a crisis of faith when you look for scientific explanations for magical acts?

Additionally, I think you're aware that your magic book says an awful lot about hell.  Care to toss up another twenty or two hundred descriptions of islamic hell..see if they sound like a black hole to you or anyone?  I'm not really sure what to do with this notion other than encourage it, as you could only be insisting that what god meant to explain was a black hole...but somehow managed to consistently fuck it up like a common know nothing.  Satan approves of your belief.

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh...0of%20time.

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. For example, an object falling into the hole would appear frozen in time at the edge of the hole.

As with singularities, this derivation simply indicates that a quantum theory of gravity is needed; all physicists and mathematicians know this, of course, for the last two generations and beyond. It's not even a common topic while sipping the morning coffee in the faculty lounge.

[The Grand Nudger]

God that was lazy Winter...heres the rest of your quote...seems to suggest that things going on inside don't quite match what an observer outside could see.

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. ... Inside the black hole, the flow of time itself draws falling objects into the center of the black hole. No force in the universe can stop this fall, any more than we can stop the flow of time.

Sensing a pattern. Gonna get around to posting any of the mountain of other things that magic book said, or is that all there is to this? In all of magic books descriptions of hell, you glommed onto a single sentence about not living or dying, decided that was time stopping, and then..glommed onto a single sentence about black holes, likewise ignoring everything else you might easily find..even things you obviously -did- find..like that full quote, just like you did with your own magic book.

-and they say we're the infidels and unbelievers.....

[Ahriman]

God that was lazy Winter...heres the rest of your quote...seems to suggest that things going on inside don't quite match what an observer outside could see.  

Near a black hole, the slowing of time is extreme. From the viewpoint of an observer outside the black hole, time stops. ... Inside the black hole, the flow of time itself draws falling objects into the center of the black hole. No force in the universe can stop this fall, any more than we can stop the flow of time.

Sensing a pattern.  Gonna get around to posting any of the mountain of other things that magic book said, or is that all there is to this?  In all of magic books descriptions of hell, you glommed onto a single sentence about not living or dying, decided that was time stopping, and then..glommed onto a single sentence about black holes, likewise ignoring everything else you might easily find..even things you obviously -did- find..like that full quote, just like you did with your own magic book.

-and they say we're the infidels and unbelievers.....

You are. Make no mistake. You make some good points, but your approach is too cynical to truly convince anyone.

[The Grand Nudger]

You think I'm trying to convince this islamist of something? That's a fools errand.