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Does human life have INHERENT value?

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Does human life have INHERENT value?
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 10:14 am
(June 21, 2015 at 10:40 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Back on the topic,

the human brain is the most organized form of matter yet discovered in the universe.

By what measure?
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 10:46 am
Ability to post here.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 10:47 am
Tongue

         
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 11:00 am
(June 22, 2015 at 10:46 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Ability to post here.

Low standards indeed.
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 11:21 am
My cat can't do it . . .
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 11:39 am
(June 22, 2015 at 11:21 am)vorlon13 Wrote: My cat can't do it . . .

How do you know? If your cat is typical of most felines then he or she isn't going to do anything that they don't want to do. Maybe your cat just doesn't want to post on this forum? Tongue
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 12:16 pm
(June 22, 2015 at 11:39 am)Nope Wrote:
(June 22, 2015 at 11:21 am)vorlon13 Wrote: My cat can't do it . . .

How do you know? If your cat is typical of most felines then he or she isn't going to do anything that they don't want to do. Maybe your cat just doesn't want to post on this forum?  Tongue

Maybe the cat is too smart to want to argue with crazy religionists who visit an atheist web site.  I have had dogs myself, and none of them were stupid enough to waste time arguing about religious nonsense.

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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(June 21, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you, as atheists, believe that human life has inherent value? (this means human life has value, in and of itself, unconditionally)

Definition of inherent (as per webster):

a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute

If so, why do you believe this and how did you come to that conclusion?

(PS - No agenda here, just honestly curious about what you think and why you think it. If you do not want to hear my opinions, don't ask. I promise not to talk about them otherwise.)

Everything has value, but value isn't inherent to anything. Value depends on who does the valuing and what sorts of things they value. Catholic doctrine has humans being valuable in the sight of God, but that's still not an example of inherent value. Something of inherent value would be valuable even if no one wanted it, and that doesn't even make sense.
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 1:09 pm
(June 21, 2015 at 7:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(June 21, 2015 at 7:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No you don't.   The magical thinking crowd never does.

I'm sorry you think that.

It is not my job to make theists feel comfortable about their fairy tales.
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
June 22, 2015 at 1:13 pm
I don't think anything has 'inherent' value. Value by definition is a judgment about something by a mind, as in a mind is required to place the value in the first place and thus the 'value' of something isn't inherent to the object/idea itself.
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