What the bible says Hell is like

[Angrboda]

What a bunch of gobbledycock.

[vorlon13]

huh . . .

wut ?

[Esquilax]

If through your 'robust' debating and education have concluded that the universe has no meaning, that's perfectly fine. Information however does originates from intelligence. Matter doesn't have causal capabilities to impart information to itself.

Not necessarily "originate," more like, codify. Intelligences can codify information from otherwise natural matter by observing and predicting consistent patterns therein. You're not in the clear, here.

[snowtracks]

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By inference to the data; universe has meaning which connotes a non-physical component. The best explanation of the Anthropic Principle is:
(A) There exists one possible Universe ‘designed’ with the goal of generating and sustaining ‘observers.’ *
An exclusively physical universe wouldn’t have meaning. But if anyone has the world viewpoint that the universe has no meaning, they should go with that thought.
*https://godandsoul.wordpress.com/tag/brandon-carter/

PS: Mind-your-manners.

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No it certainly does not have  meaning

That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any spiritual discernment.

[GUBU]

No it certainly does not have  meaning

That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any spiritual discernment.

Why would we bother to develop capabilities with reference to something for which we have no evidence of its existence. To show you how ridiculous your statement is, let me replace spiritual with something we know is fictional (being from a series of fiction novels):

"That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any Discworld discernment."

We have exactly the same evidential for Discworld as we do for spirits, assertions made without supporting data. The only difference being that Terry Pratchett never went around insisting that Discworld was actually real outside his and his readers imaginations, whereas, despite masses of evidence contradictory, idiots like you still continue to insist that there is a reality outside our reality and demand that the rest of us take your unevidenced assertions to be absolutely true.

[dyresand]

No it certainly does not have  meaning

That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any spiritual discernment.

There is rational spirituality then there is irrational spirituality i need neither. i really do not need irrational spirituality. 
Again though i don't know why people believe in god here let me paint you a picture. 


do you realize out there in the vastness of space we are just a dust particle in the grand scheme of things not even a dust particle 
but a speck a tiny insignificant speck that happens of have life on it and you are talking about spiritual discernment what a laugh.

[drfuzzy]

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 No it certainly does not have  meaning

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That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any spiritual discernment.

Ooh, spiritual discernment.  I like spirits. Bring over a bottle and we'll happily discern them.  What?  You meant invisible things that you can't prove exist, like ghosts and leprechauns and sparkly vampires and santa claus and god?  Well, that's a disappointment.

[snowtracks]

That's what happens to the thinking of people who haven't taken the time develop any spiritual discernment.

There is rational spirituality then there is irrational spirituality i need neither. i really do not need irrational spirituality. 
Again though i don't know why people believe in god here let me paint you a picture. 


do you realize out there in the vastness of space we are just a dust particle in the grand scheme of things not even a dust particle 
but a speck a tiny insignificant speck that happens of have life on it and you are talking about spiritual discernment what a laugh.

Notice that earth is shielded from the galactic core; and how uniquely created it is. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dVCIPQ4VOu4/maxresdefault.jpg
Scripture always links the purpose of creation with redemption. The current creation however is close to fulfilling that purpose. Timeline is: Now to the start of the 7 year tribulation period, the 1000 year kingdom rule of Christ on earth. Then God will destroy this cosmos (probably only this universe, maybe beyond). Then the new creation including a new earth. Believers will have new earth responsibilities (fulfilling work without fatigue, drudgery, etc. since there will be new physics.
So after 13.77 billion years, what is left is: less than 100 years (undoubtedly) + 7 years, +1000 years. As the timeline indicates all but a smidgen was God's preparation for this period of redemption.  If one were to smooth out a graph of an unbelievers life, it would show that they're either moving toward salvation or blasphemy (occurs at the movement of death, persons have decided that God can take His redemption plan and shove which will result in spiritual death- called the second death which is eternally permanent); whereas, salvation is acceptance of God's redemptive plan.* Note: Religions - they all can't be right; aka, Hinduism believes in 330 million gods, Buddhism doesn't believe in any, and on it goes.
God's nature doesn't allow for 'torment'; the experience of hell is self-imposed: Truth is not taught there, the thought of what could have been, and the company of people there are among the difficulties.
*Summation of that redemption plan by me (not Chapter and Verse) - "Everyone that calls upon the name of the Lord by embracing the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ will receive salvation". Believing in God's existence is not the issue, yes, not the issue.

[robvalue]

Yeah...

This highlights a general difference between theists and sceptics.

Theists generally seem stuck in the old mindset that the earth is the centre of the universe, or that the earth pretty much is the only important thing with everything else being a backdrop. This is often given away by interchangeable use of "world" and "universe".

Sceptics seem to be able to accept that our planet, and the life on it, are as much of a backdrop as anything else.

[maestroanth]

A sane person wouldn't need the threat of punishment or promise of reward to be a decent person in the one life we have.

I agree

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A choice between service to someone who is the moral equivalent of a rapist, demanding that I submit to him at pain of torture? 

Yeah, I'll take the torture and refuse to serve such a wicked being as this God you describe.

Can you explain the rapist accusation please?
God isn't forcing you to do anything you don't wanna do
and sure, but that's a little disturbing how you prefer torture :S

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Yeah no... id go with the burning thank you very much. It's not the fact of the burning but, god of the bible is a huge asshole. 
Satan in the bible isn't evil if compared to god. god in the bible is evil and does bad things because he can. So yeah you don't
have free will in heaven because you know the ability to think for yourself is said sin that is taken away.

I disagree with the asshole claim. God is actually very kind, considering how He became a human to die so that we wouldn't go to hell. Jesus went to hell for three days and three nights too. To me that sounds like a very good God.
and Satan is evil. He's the one who tempted us to sin in the first place and sewered everyone smh.

May I ask, how does that work? I just don't see how god dying as a human prevents us to go to hell. Wouldn't that mean that God is now dead leaving us to tango with Satan without his help?