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[Rhizomorph13]

The bitter truth is you gotta be a bit of an asshole for women to feel that you are genuine. I was the "nice guy" growing up and it just doesn't work, it was only once I used a little bit of "the neg" that I acheived some measure of success. Oh, and I learned to swing dance, yeah that probably is what brought the real success. I had a skill to attract women and was able to weave a bit of mystery and convince them I was worth having by showing that they couldn't just have me easily. Fucked up really. Maybe for you Balkan dancing could bring success? I had a dance partner once who was into Balkan dancing. Who knew there was a whole scene here in Portland centered around such a niche dance style?

Women only like a guy who has skills, but don't go out and buy a bo staff or nunchucks just yet.

[kılıç_mehmet]

The bitter truth is you gotta be a bit of an asshole for women to feel that you are genuine. I was the "nice guy" growing up and it just doesn't work, it was only once I used a little bit of "the neg" that I acheived some measure of success. Oh, and I learned to swing dance, yeah that probably is what brought the real success. I had a skill to attract women and was able to weave a bit of mystery and convince them I was worth having by showing that they couldn't just have me easily. Fucked up really. Maybe for you Balkan dancing could bring success? I had a dance partner once who was into Balkan dancing. Who knew there was a whole scene here in Portland centered around such a niche dance style?

Women only like a guy who has skills, but don't go out and buy a bo staff or nunchucks just yet.

I am neither a nice guy, neither an asshole. I'm mostly very neutral towards women-not nice enough for them to use me, not asshole enough for them to like me.
I am a good dancer, meaning, in folklore, I know balkan dancing styles, not all, maybe, but I've hanged out with a few bosniak fellows back in my days to know some of their dances, including our own folklore from Ankara and Caucasia.
However, folklore is far from being attractive around these parts.
Only squares apply for folklore, and here...Well, the folklore was beset by people I politically do not agree with, and they have used the folklore association of the school for their own political means, and I've quitted it. Recently only I've heard of the success of our own guys in the association, but I'm already in another related association in the school, with the old one I've founded was closed by the school, I've seen it fit to join it with my own crew, dispersed them amongst the rest, and taken up my own path...I've dispersed the topic again...
My point is, here, one has to be a good talker, at first.
I only talk at political assemblies, where I usually present my views on matters of the week in an hour long seminar to a lot of people, girls among them.
However, this type of talking is not the type of talking you want to employ to get gals to love you, they'll be bored. I tried to do small talk, but the best I manage is to get the topic back to the things we're discussing here, and in the other forums I post in.
Meaning, it's very, very boring.
Sometimes I tell of my old tales back in Germany and of my highschool days, but after two hours, those tire out aswell, then I start telling old wives' tales, and continue with supernatural stuff if they still look interested. Then they ask me to read their fortune, which is why most girls come to me, and I know that they already have someone else in mind, and come to ask me what the coffee grinds/bones/cone will tell of their future with this person.
Then I make that feel when no gf face.

[thesummerqueen]

Small talk is BS, Mehmet.

I know it's not really any help, but I like a guy who talks about intelligent, important things. The guy I'm sleeping with now attracted me as I got to know him because he's constantly railing about politics and science. He's also hysterically funny, but that's besides the point. He's polite - very courteous and affectionate - but not a pushover. I adore him. Couldn't ask for a better lover.

You just have to find a woman with those values. The best relationships, of any sort, are people who challenge each other in wits and conversation.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, I have to search far and wide, maybe.
But there is a saying, every pan finds it's lid one day.

[Violet]

Me on tour with my school's Jazz Band in the Netherlands. I'm the bloke on the left, with the absurdly long hair.

Unlikely as it is... trans?

(of course not... my judgement is worthless atm. Freaking sore throat. Storm has been going all night and day.)

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Cut your hair, hippies.

Over my dead bo-waitaminute.

I'll kill in cold blood before I'll cut someone's hair off.

[KichigaiNeko]

The bitter truth is you gotta be a bit of an asshole for women to feel that you are genuine. I was the "nice guy" growing up and it just doesn't work, it was only once I used a little bit of "the neg" that I acheived some measure of success. Oh, and I learned to swing dance, yeah that probably is what brought the real success. I had a skill to attract women and was able to weave a bit of mystery and convince them I was worth having by showing that they couldn't just have me easily. Fucked up really. Maybe for you Balkan dancing could bring success? I had a dance partner once who was into Balkan dancing. Who knew there was a whole scene here in Portland centered around such a niche dance style?

Women only like a guy who has skills, but don't go out and buy a bo staff or nunchucks just yet.

What worked (and has ALWAYS worked) with me is that you BE genuine. Don't give me that "nice guy/ bad guy" crap...just BE who you are and so will I and if that is suitable THEN the sparks can fly.... not that I am any prize, but it has worked for Zen and me

[Violet]

What girl doesn't like a guy with large hands?

*raises her hand...*

I don't particularly dislike them either though.

[KichigaiNeko]

Can't say I am fond of them... but they HAVE to be talented!

[Whateverist]

The bitter truth is you gotta be a bit of an asshole for women to feel that you are genuine. I was the "nice guy" growing up and it just doesn't work, it was only once I used a little bit of "the neg" that I acheived some measure of success. Oh, and I learned to swing dance, yeah that probably is what brought the real success. I had a skill to attract women and was able to weave a bit of mystery and convince them I was worth having by showing that they couldn't just have me easily. Fucked up really. Maybe for you Balkan dancing could bring success? I had a dance partner once who was into Balkan dancing. Who knew there was a whole scene here in Portland centered around such a niche dance style?

Women only like a guy who has skills, but don't go out and buy a bo staff or nunchucks just yet.

What worked (and has ALWAYS worked) with me is that you BE genuine. Don't give me that "nice guy/ bad guy" crap...just BE who you are and so will I and if that is suitable THEN the sparks can fly.... not that I am any prize, but it has worked for Zen and me

I've never found much difficulty in being genuine and being a bit of an asshole. I think we all have an inner asshole if only we can get in touch with it.

[thesummerqueen]

Lube helps with that, I hear.