I think karma is pretty much disproven by the fact that certain people aren't incinerated by lightning.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
Scary claims of God's punishments
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I think karma is pretty much disproven by the fact that certain people aren't incinerated by lightning.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
(September 16, 2021 at 11:04 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I think karma is pretty much disproven by the fact that certain people aren't incinerated by lightning. I think you are thinking of 'Instant Karma'. Which is a concept I'm good with btw. “If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
It's going to get you.
Going to knock you right on the head.
Ah, my "favorite" kind of karma is the one that punishes babies and little children for what they did in past lives, so they get born deformed or just very sick.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Karma and the caste system were terrible inventions of Hinduism.
Buddhism improved karma, to mean a natural "effect of intention" rather than a judgment, but it was still a problem, as it still attributed things like poverty or disease to past bad intentions.
There is a very minor form of "social karma" in play. People who regularly behave badly tend to lose friends and acquaintances, leaving them without support when they're experiencing difficulties. No gods required - we tend to be attracted to some people and repelled by others, depending on how they act.
Life's a shit show. Everyone, and everything, eventually gets splattered.
It's easy to attach agency to Karma just like everything else, as has been already said there are consequences to our actions. If we treat people well, we mostly get treated well, if we treat people badly eventually that will catch up with us.
There is agency, just the agency is the reaction of other people and not a supernatural world organising things so we get treated badly.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
RE: Scary claims of God's punishments
September 23, 2021 at 6:20 pm
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(September 15, 2021 at 12:18 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: This is Karma, she'll be ten in December: Awwww.... I can't bring myself to debunk such a pretty wittle face like that. @ OP: That's why karma will never be debunked. (September 22, 2021 at 12:54 am)Astreja Wrote: There is a very minor form of "social karma" in play. People who regularly behave badly tend to lose friends and acquaintances, leaving them without support when they're experiencing difficulties. No gods required - we tend to be attracted to some people and repelled by others, depending on how they act. "Tend to" being the operative phrase. Plenty of assholes with tons of friends and endless wealth. Tons of good natured people getting the shaft. It'd be nice if the scales of justice automatically fixed the universe, but it looks like we're tasked with correcting the problem. |
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