(July 20, 2015 at 6:13 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, dude. The fact that there is a painting of the shroud that is older than the flawed C-14 dating suggests for the age of the shroud is an inconvenient fact that you cannot explain.
So... in a response to my pointing out your argument from ignorance, you opt to go for a second argument from ignorance? "You can't explain this, therefore I'm right," is no better than "science can't explain this, therefore I'm right."
Besides, I did explain it: you've got a picture of a shroud, that you're convinced is the shroud... for no readily apparent reason. Or did you think human silhouettes on cloth are unique to the shroud of turin? Hey, my grandparents have an old cloth they use for their projector back home: if they project a human image on it, is that the shroud of turin too?
Or do you have room in your heart for more silhouettes on cloth in every other circumstance but this one?
Quote:What I'm hanging MY hat on is that science has looked at this piece of linen again and again and again...and still has no explanation for how a 3-D image was created on it. Oh, but "science of the gaps": "We will figure it out eventually."
Even if we never find out- and I'm prepared to accept that as a distinct possibility, given the severely underwhelming evidence it would represent even if it were genuine, so you can stow that "science of the gaps" childishness right now- a mystery still doesn't mean you're right. Pointing to an unknown and asserting that it's evidence for your position is, yes, an argument from ignorance.
Quote:Maybe so...but till then...there is this enigmatic image on a cloth indicating wounds that bear a striking resemblance to the description of the events of Jesus' scourging and death. Either it is the real deal or an amazing icon that testifies to the extraordinary faith of the artist who chose to express his faith in God by creating it.
That's a win for believers either way.
Hey, if you're happy with fallacy laden reasoning like that, why bother with this whole "I'mma do evidence at you!" thing that you're doing in this thread? If "here's an old cloth, mighta been Jesus what was under there, you don't know so therefore it was, therefore Jesus," is sufficient for you, then you really have no business telling anyone else that what they won't accept from you is good evidence. Clearly, you wouldn't know evidence if it bit you right on the epistemology.
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