Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible?

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Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible?

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RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible?

July 22, 2015 at 5:01 am (This post was last modified: July 22, 2015 at 5:02 am by robvalue.)

(July 21, 2015 at 11:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Obviously you cannot know those guided by simply them claiming they are guided. Normal people are not meant to be your way of absolute guidance nor is there reason why the Guide would respond to that person asking on your behalf.

The Guide is meant to be the way to God and attraction to his holy exalted soul and love towards him, is suppose to guide you.

And the Guide is not some genie at your disposal whenever you want, he is your Master and you should humble towards him, that the Guide would help and teach you when he knows best and wants to, and when God approves and gives permission to help you and guide you.

"Who God misguides, there is no Guide for him...".

All of you've shown is that there is a problem if people try to go through fallible people claiming to be following an infallible. But this doesn't negate personal guidance if you go towards the Guide.

Emphasis mine. Isn't this exactly what you're telling us to do, to take your word for this? You are someone fallible claiming to follow the infallible. Or are you infallible?

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Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 21, 2015 at 9:38 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Minimalist - July 21, 2015 at 9:42 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Metis - July 21, 2015 at 9:48 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 21, 2015 at 10:20 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Angrboda - July 21, 2015 at 10:34 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 21, 2015 at 10:36 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Cato - July 22, 2015 at 4:39 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Aoi Magi - July 22, 2015 at 5:40 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 5:51 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Aoi Magi - July 22, 2015 at 6:19 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 6:26 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by pocaracas - July 22, 2015 at 7:02 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Anomalocaris - July 22, 2015 at 2:28 pm

Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an inf... - by KUSA - July 21, 2015 at 9:55 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Exian - July 21, 2015 at 10:01 pm

Yet another bullshit morality thread - by Ravenshire - July 21, 2015 at 10:20 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by ignoramus - July 21, 2015 at 10:43 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 21, 2015 at 10:45 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Chas - July 22, 2015 at 10:55 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by AFTT47 - July 21, 2015 at 11:39 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 21, 2015 at 11:52 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by AFTT47 - July 22, 2015 at 12:33 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 12:57 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by AFTT47 - July 22, 2015 at 1:24 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 5:01 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 5:45 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 11:59 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Silver - July 22, 2015 at 12:34 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Longhorn - July 22, 2015 at 3:05 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 4:05 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by ignoramus - July 22, 2015 at 4:34 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 4:37 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Psychonaut - July 22, 2015 at 4:45 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by FreeTony - July 22, 2015 at 5:03 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 6:17 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 7:04 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 7:06 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by AFTT47 - July 22, 2015 at 9:50 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by Tonus - July 22, 2015 at 7:15 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 7:22 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by FreeTony - July 22, 2015 at 8:45 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 9:39 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 22, 2015 at 10:11 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 10:17 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 1:48 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 1:55 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 22, 2015 at 3:59 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 4:56 pm

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 23, 2015 at 4:23 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 5:13 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by robvalue - July 23, 2015 at 7:41 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 23, 2015 at 8:58 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 10:00 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 23, 2015 at 10:23 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 10:26 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 23, 2015 at 10:23 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 23, 2015 at 10:27 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2015 at 10:30 am

RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by TubbyTubby - July 23, 2015 at 10:46 am

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