Evidence: The Gathering

[Randy Carson]

No, dude. The fact that there is a painting of the shroud that is older than the flawed C-14 dating suggests for the age of the shroud is an inconvenient fact that you cannot explain.

So... in a response to my pointing out your argument from ignorance, you opt to go for a second argument from ignorance? "You can't explain this, therefore I'm right," is no better than "science can't explain this, therefore I'm right."

Besides, I did explain it: you've got a picture of a shroud, that you're convinced is the shroud... for no readily apparent reason. Or did you think human silhouettes on cloth are unique to the shroud of turin? Hey, my grandparents have an old cloth they use for their projector back home: if they project a human image on it, is that the shroud of turin too?

Or do you have room in your heart for more silhouettes on cloth in every other circumstance but this one?

That was a lot of typing in order to say nothing.

Objectively speaking, the Shroud of Turin cannot be proved to be the burial cloth of Jesus, can it?

We both know and agree on this. Where we differ is in our views of what we can BELIEVE about the shroud based upon all the information we know about it. MOST crucified people were not scourged first. MOST crucified people did not have a lance wound in their side. AND to hear you boys tell the tale, MOST crucified people weren't even buried at all...they were left to rot on the cross or thrown into a shallow grave.

So, that makes this shroud kinda unique, doesn't it?

Oh, and all that pollen and stuff that has been documented from the shroud...you know the stuff that only grows in a tiny region of ISRAEL...wow, what a coincidence that the forger was smart enough to TAKE his canvas to Palestine first...just so he could contaminate it with pollen spores native to NOT EUROPE.

But hey, I say it's probable; you say it's not. I say it's another clue that leads some to faith; you say no way.

Whatever.

Meanwhile, the boys in the lab are coming to the conclusion that there is nothing else like this piece of cloth known to man.