RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
July 25, 2015 at 1:11 pm
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2015 at 1:12 pm by Pyrrho.)
(July 25, 2015 at 11:11 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Ok. Back up. Back out of our observable Universe.
What's left?
The hypothesis of quantization.
Now, through this hypothesis we can retionalize not only miracles,
No. Many miracle stories are still from primitive, superstitious people, so we have no reason to believe them. We also know about magicians, who seem to do miracles, but do not do miracles. Stupid and ignorant people can be fooled by magicians into believing some miracle really occurred. So whatever is beyond the observable universe (if anything) does not make the miracle stories believable.
And even if you were right about this (and you are obviously not; see previous paragraph), you would have zero justification for singling out the miracle stories of one religion rather than the miracle stories of any other religion, or those miracle stories not associated with any religion. Are you really silly enough to believe every ridiculous story that anyone tells you?
Whatever is beyond the observable universe, we still observe regularities in the observable universe. Any claim that violates the regularities is automatically suspect, as usually (or always) things happen in the regular way.
(July 25, 2015 at 11:11 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: but the existence of God as literally everything at all places at all times.
If everything is generally the same everywhere, then seamingly unprovable concepts of God are completely plausable.
Big bang? Let there be light.
Chew on that candy kiddos.
Thoughts?
Not hate mongering, real, free thought please.
Even if there is something beyond the observable universe, you still don't get a personal god out of that, or anything with a consciousness. You are just making stuff up, and have no basis for saying that any of it is real.
Your argument is essentially an argumentum ad ignorantiam. Your argument is essentially:
We don't know what is beyond the observable universe, therefore God is beyond the observable universe.
Your reasoning is completely fallacious.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
