RE: Miserable Corporate Mother Fucker
July 25, 2015 at 10:13 pm
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2015 at 10:51 pm by Excited Penguin.)
(July 25, 2015 at 9:16 pm)Cato Wrote:(July 25, 2015 at 9:01 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Wouldn't paying everyone too much be a problem too? You can't just start paying everyone what CEOs make, right? Money would lose it's value and we'd be back where we started.You'll have to explain when saying paying workers a living wage meant the same as paying everyone CEO salary.
(July 25, 2015 at 9:01 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: How much people get payed is not really the problem, I think - it's the means to live that need get more uniformly distributed and made available.Last I checked, money was the means to live.
(July 25, 2015 at 9:01 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: What I'm basically saying is how current economies work is the problem, really. We should work for other reasons than making a living. It's only when this initial problem goes away that we are able to truly work, efficiently, creatively and so on.
The state should provide us with sufficient resources to lead a normal life and we should strive to make it even better or work for the community at large on our own, unincentivized by a need to feed your own family and provide them with comfort and shelter.
I like the sentiment, I do; however, I encourage you to think this through a little more.
As far as working for reasons besides money, do you think people will voluntarily clean septic tanks for the enjoyment? There are all sorts of other shitty jobs this applies to.
The state produces nothing; therefore, it cannot provide. The state can reallocate; however, this requires a mode of production to tax to begin with. That said, what you may be after is more responsible legislation where the common good is given a higher priority. Gets messy, but it is achievable.
I'm saying money should be taken out of the equation altogether. We should think of more efficient ways to function as an economical society than symbolizing and thus inherently promoting wealth.
As for the messy jobs, I'm sure people would figure something out. Maybe a system in which both volunteers and predetermined able-bodied individuals do it in shifts? That can't be such a problem, come on.
If I know anything for sure though, is that bitching about something won't make it but worse, since it merely plays on your own nerves and achieves absolutely nothing but that, and so is really counterproductive. If you take issue with a problem you should attempt to solve it other than preaching to the all-knowing[about this kind of shit] choir.
You can't both have the cake and eat it. You should prioritize. What is more important to you? The concept of money or fairness? If you choose both, you can't really tell me there's something to complain about, after all you're not only part of the system, but are also supporting it.
Money wouldn't make any sense in a fully just society. Sure, that's almost impossibly utopic, but that's how we always guide ourselves when theorizing anyway, right?
