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Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
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Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The Irish government is to apologise after an investigation found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in the country's mother-and-baby homes.

Established in the 19th and 20th centuries, the institutions housed women and girls who became pregnant outside marriage.
About 9,000 children died in the 18 institutions under investigation.
The government said the report revealed the country had a "stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture".
Taoiseach (Irish PM) Mícheál Martin said the report described a "dark, difficult and shameful chapter" of Irish history.
"As a nation we must face up to the full truth of our past," he said.

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

The report said "the women and children should not have been in the institutions" and that many women suffered emotional abuse.
The investigators say it appears there was "little kindness" shown to the mothers and "this was particularly the case" during childbirth, which many of the women found "a traumatic experience".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548
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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 2:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The Irish government is to apologise after an investigation found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in the country's mother-and-baby homes.

Established in the 19th and 20th centuries, the institutions housed women and girls who became pregnant outside marriage.
About 9,000 children died in the 18 institutions under investigation.
The government said the report revealed the country had a "stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture".
Taoiseach (Irish PM) Mícheál Martin said the report described a "dark, difficult and shameful chapter" of Irish history.
"As a nation we must face up to the full truth of our past," he said.

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

The report said "the women and children should not have been in the institutions" and that many women suffered emotional abuse.
The investigators say it appears there was "little kindness" shown to the mothers and "this was particularly the case" during childbirth, which many of the women found "a traumatic experience".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548

This was brought up (all too briefly, in my opinion) in the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate when Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry debated Desmond Tutu and Ann Widdecombe on the claim ‘The Catholic Church Has Been A Force For Good In Our World’. It was sad to see Tutu dodge the issue and infuriating to see Widdecombe defend it.

Then again, Widdecombe has always been a heartless bitch.

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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 2:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

That is a crazy number.  "Out of sight, out of mind".  Unwed mothers were an embarrassment to their families.

I wonder how many people died in Mother Theresa's homes that could've been saved by basic medical care?

The Catholic Church as an institution doesn't do a very good job of taking care of people -- including pre-natal care in U.S. hospitals.
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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 2:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 12, 2021 at 2:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The Irish government is to apologise after an investigation found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in the country's mother-and-baby homes.

Established in the 19th and 20th centuries, the institutions housed women and girls who became pregnant outside marriage.
About 9,000 children died in the 18 institutions under investigation.
The government said the report revealed the country had a "stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture".
Taoiseach (Irish PM) Mícheál Martin said the report described a "dark, difficult and shameful chapter" of Irish history.
"As a nation we must face up to the full truth of our past," he said.

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

The report said "the women and children should not have been in the institutions" and that many women suffered emotional abuse.
The investigators say it appears there was "little kindness" shown to the mothers and "this was particularly the case" during childbirth, which many of the women found "a traumatic experience".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548

This was brought up (all too briefly, in my opinion) in the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate when Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry debated Desmond Tutu and Ann Widdecombe on the claim ‘The Catholic Church Has Been A Force For Good In Our World’. It was sad to see Tutu dodge the issue and infuriating to see Widdecombe defend it.

Then again, Widdecombe has always been a heartless bitch.

Boru

Yes, I saw that and couldn't aggree more
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 2:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The Irish government is to apologise after an investigation found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in the country's mother-and-baby homes.

Established in the 19th and 20th centuries, the institutions housed women and girls who became pregnant outside marriage.
About 9,000 children died in the 18 institutions under investigation.
The government said the report revealed the country had a "stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture".
Taoiseach (Irish PM) Mícheál Martin said the report described a "dark, difficult and shameful chapter" of Irish history.
"As a nation we must face up to the full truth of our past," he said.

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

The report said "the women and children should not have been in the institutions" and that many women suffered emotional abuse.
The investigators say it appears there was "little kindness" shown to the mothers and "this was particularly the case" during childbirth, which many of the women found "a traumatic experience".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548

They were doing their level best to bury this report up until recently. Oh and Mickey Martin was part of the government that gave the roman catholic church a sweetheart deal on covering the compensation for the child sex abuse scandal, making them liable for only 10% of the costs (of which the church still hasn't coughed up).

Fuck you and your fake apology you spineless, gutless, anti-Irish sack of shit.

(January 12, 2021 at 3:32 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: That is a crazy number.  "Out of sight, out of mind".  Unwed mothers were an embarrassment to their families.

By fiat of the state and, most especially, the church. My guess is that, if they were given the choice, most families would have minded their own.
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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 6:26 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(January 12, 2021 at 2:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes

The Irish government is to apologise after an investigation found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in the country's mother-and-baby homes.

Established in the 19th and 20th centuries, the institutions housed women and girls who became pregnant outside marriage.
About 9,000 children died in the 18 institutions under investigation.
The government said the report revealed the country had a "stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture".
Taoiseach (Irish PM) Mícheál Martin said the report described a "dark, difficult and shameful chapter" of Irish history.
"As a nation we must face up to the full truth of our past," he said.

The commission that investigated the homes found that the number of children who died was about 15% of all those who were born in the institutions.
There were about 56,000 unmarried mothers and 57,000 children in the mother-and-baby homes and county homes investigated by the commission.

The report said "the women and children should not have been in the institutions" and that many women suffered emotional abuse.
The investigators say it appears there was "little kindness" shown to the mothers and "this was particularly the case" during childbirth, which many of the women found "a traumatic experience".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548

They were doing their level best to bury this report up until recently.  Oh and Mickey Martin was part of the government that gave the roman catholic church a sweetheart deal on covering the compensation for the child sex abuse scandal, making them liable for only 10% of the costs (of which the church still hasn't coughed up).

Fuck you and your fake apology you spineless, gutless, anti-Irish sack of shit.

(January 12, 2021 at 3:32 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: That is a crazy number.  "Out of sight, out of mind".  Unwed mothers were an embarrassment to their families.

By fiat of the state and, most especially, the church.  My guess is that, if they were given the choice, most families would have minded their own.

Don't sit on the fence... say what you mean!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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RE: Irish government to apologise over mother-and-baby homes
(January 12, 2021 at 6:28 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(January 12, 2021 at 6:26 pm)Nomad Wrote: They were doing their level best to bury this report up until recently.  Oh and Mickey Martin was part of the government that gave the roman catholic church a sweetheart deal on covering the compensation for the child sex abuse scandal, making them liable for only 10% of the costs (of which the church still hasn't coughed up).

Fuck you and your fake apology you spineless, gutless, anti-Irish sack of shit.


By fiat of the state and, most especially, the church.  My guess is that, if they were given the choice, most families would have minded their own.

Don't sit on the fence... say what you mean!

It'd take too long. I'd have to invent whole new expletives to get it all out.
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