RE: How did little old us ever take the measure of unimaginably stupendous God?
July 28, 2015 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2015 at 4:26 pm by Mystic.)
(July 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:(July 28, 2015 at 3:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is a few arguments, but before going into these arguments...let's discuss non-argument faith. Most people who believe in God don't do so on arguments. They just feel it's obvious he exists like morality exists. They also feel they know he is the basis to morality, that they always wonder how Atheists can come to terms to believing in objective morality without God.
The arguments I doubt you will be convinced by them, but they do convince me. However, I believe in God before those arguments and I'm not sure if they even increased me in faith regardless of how convincing they are.
But if God exists, why do you think it's rational to assume he didn't give knowledge of himself to us? Why do you assume it's not possible to be given knowledge of God?
Good, I agree. What I'd really like to know is why you assume that if gods exist they must be mega-/omni-/stupendously grand and eternal. You feel that god exists before the arguments start. But why do you assume you know the measure of god?
So my question does not challenge your ability to be given knowledge of God, but I do question how that gives you confidence in such a cosmically vast being. I cannot imagine why anyone thinks they know such a thing.
From what I understand, what gives us this knowledge is his name. Through his name, all praise belongs to him. Through his name, which is light from light, light that unites all lights, and light that is with light, we get to know him. This is also known as God's face by which we get to know him.
However the name is the not the named, and we don't worship the name. The name points to the named, and the meaning is what we worship without knowing it to it's absoluteness.
Through his name, I can know greatness in the heavens and the earth belong to him. Through his Name, which is light with light, God is the light of the heavens and the earth.
Through his name, I can glorify God. Through his name I know, despite not being able to imagine it, that God is Ultimate, and is the most High and absolutely perfect.
The name of God in reality contains all beautiful names and unites all perfections. Through his name, I can recognize that the Quran has been revealed and brought down through his name and reflects his identity. Through his name, I can recognize the light of the Guide of time and know it's truthful, honest, from God and a proof of God's desire.
What I mean by "name" is not like the names we give to each other which are mean random words we were picked at birth. I mean by which we can identify God. And through that, all beautiful names we know belong to God and point to God, although, in the heart, they are all known through the one name of God that encompasses all creation to various degrees. The utmost of his name is Mohammad and the family of Mohammad from the Islamic point of view. Consequently, to connect to God, one must ultimately look upon the light of God's Guides, and glorify through their glorification of God. When I say they are the utmost of his name, I mean knowledge of God in creation, and I don't mean to say they are the named or the meaning of the name. Only that they glorify God in the most perfect glorification in creation and submit to his will most perfectly.
Consequently, the guiding light of the universe unites in them.
