Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[Little Rik]

If you really think that the Arab spring lead to progress please show this progress.

Pay attention, Rik: I am telling you that if it did not lead to progress, it is because of religious and 'spiritual' thinkers like you.

Pay attention Ton.
The people revolt because lack of job, of money and freedom.
What religion has to do with that only Santa knows.

Progress is advancement.
Since when putting the feet where you where before is advancement?

Not being dead allows you to advance.  The life vest makes progress possible, and therefore is a sign of progress.  Why do you insist on having this stuff explained to you as if to a six-year-old?

Not being dead allows you to advance but allow doesn't mean that you advance.
In order to advance you got to move your feet (so to speak) forwards.
If i just give you a life vest that is not progress at all.
It is only putting you in the position to make some progress but progress is not
made until you go back on land and by your own effort you move ahead.
But is not even true that by dying you are prevented from moving ahead in your progress.
Life goes on and on reincarnation after reincarnation so by dying you just stop your
possible progress for a while.
Nothing is really lost anyway.

You got very big expectation Ton.

Yes and no.  No one has yet to prove the existence of the spirit realm, and therefore it's a pretty big task.  By the way, telling me that we cannot 'see' love doesn't prove that the spirit realm exists.  And telling me that I need to 'do the hard work' to prove your point for you doesn't prove it either.  On the other hand, my expectations for you are quite limited, which you managed to justify once again.

The reason why i am telling you that you got big expectation is because you pretend to have physical evidence of something that is abstract and not physical.
This way of thinking has been blinding atheists since they exist and will so in the future.
The day that atheists will wake up and grow up to this reality they no longer will be atheists.  

If you don't believe me just go in a Lesotho or in an Indian village and ask the people there if anyone from the statistic board ever came to them and ask them how many people die of malaria, tubercolosis and any other disease.

There is no "statistic board" that travels the world collecting data from the man on the street.  Why would anyone trust a person from some small town or village to collect such statistics, even within their limited reach?  Why would I trust Stan in Cambodia for any sort of insight into global statistics?  No wonder you're so wrong all the time.

You just make my point.
I rest my case Ton.  
It all started when we were talking about statistics.
I said that the official statistics do not take into account the real happening but only
what goes on mainly in the western countries.
This argument was related to malaria statistics in which you said that malaria is not the world N 1 killer.
Now considering that the official statistics do not take into account what happen around the globe
my bet that malaria is the N 1 killer is not off the mark at all.