(August 5, 2015 at 3:41 pm)Javaman Wrote:(August 5, 2015 at 11:17 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So after starting this thread yesterday, I've noticed that a lot of atheists neither like children nor want them. Some even went as far as to say it's immoral to have them.
I've never met a group of people so anti kids lol. Most people want children or at least like them. I thought that was interesting/different and was curious to know how prevalent this sentiment actually was amongst atheists.
Please, only vote if you're an atheist:
A. I have children OR am currently open to having children (through adoption or otherwise) at some point in the future if things line up right.
B. I neither have NOR, as it stands, want children at any point in the future.
C. I adamantly did NOT want a child, ever, but ended up having one anyway by accident.
Thanks!
My wife and I have two boys (5* and 7) and all the standard cliches about how kids are equally wonderful and exasperating apply.
Your comment about atheists being "anti-kids" is the sort of comment that cements my opinion that anecdotal evidence is not very useful most of the time.
On a side note, my wife and I are an infertile couple (well actually it's just me) and both of our children were conceived through IVF.
The teachings with regards to IVF of your beloved Church piss me off. If a Catholic ever suggests to me that my beautiful, amazing boys are the sinful byproduct of immoral and illicit acts, or that we are somehow a lesser family, I will punch them square in the nose.
This is just one of the many things about the Catholic Church that make me greatly appreciate Minimalist's sig.
*technically 4.92 yrs old, but we're already planning the birthday part, so I'm calling him 5.
See, and that's the strange part to me. You get angry at people who think IVF is not moral, but Pyrrho (and others here) just straight up said they think having kids is immoral and that they look down on people who have kids. No outrage there?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh