(August 5, 2015 at 4:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:Oh I see. You prefer to engage in a semantic dance about your doctrine.(August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Javaman Wrote: Except of course, for the Catholic Church who, as a matter of doctrine, has already decided that my family is lesser because of some nonsense about the unitive and procreative aspects of fucking.
This is incorrect.
Yes, we believe IVF is not a moral means of reproduction, but that does not mean the Church teaches that families are lesser or that kids are lesser if they came from IVF. If any Catholic holds that position, it is their own personal position, and not a teaching of the Church.
Let me ask you this: Is 50% lesser than 100%?
Because, according to your church's doctrine, IVF is missing half of the "meaning" of sexual reproduction.
Pope Paul VI said that there is an “inseparable connection, willed by God, and unable to be broken by man on his own initiative, between the two meanings of the conjugal act: the unitive meaning and the procreative meaning.”
If there's no unitive meaning (whatever the hell that actually means) in IVF, then isn't an IVF baby only half complete?
It's funny how one your popes can say that the connection is unbreakable, but then condemns those who actually find a way to "break" that connection. Weak sauce, to be sure.
Sporadic poster