(August 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm)Javaman Wrote: Oh I see. You prefer to engage in a semantic dance about your doctrine.
Let me ask you this: Is 50% lesser than 100%?
Because, according to your church's doctrine, IVF is missing half of the "meaning" of sexual reproduction.
Pope Paul VI said that there is an “inseparable connection, willed by God, and unable to be broken by man on his own initiative, between the two meanings of the conjugal act: the unitive meaning and the procreative meaning.”
If there's no unitive meaning (whatever the hell that actually means) in IVF, then isn't an IVF baby only half complete?
It's funny how one your popes can say that the connection is unbreakable, but then condemns those who actually find a way to "break" that connection. Weak sauce, to be sure.
It's not semantics at all.
We believe that IVF is immoral.
We still believe that all children are sacred and precious, and that a family is a sacred thing, regardless of how the children were conceived. So no, the Church does not teach that children conceived of IVF are "lesser" or that families consisting of children conceived form IVF are "lesser," as you claimed. I am sure you have a beautiful family.
But if you can't see the difference between the 2, then there's not much else I can say to you.
Then why all the fuss over the method? What's with the nonsense over the unbreakable connection between the unitive and procreative aspects of fucking?
You say the process by which my children were conceived is irrelevant. Your church says otherwise. Whose word should I take on the the matter....
Sporadic poster
