RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
August 6, 2015 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2015 at 12:32 pm by Redbeard The Pink.)
(August 6, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Anima Wrote: I think humanity in general has murderous intent toward other humans. I would argue this falls under a desire to have control. In the event that a person feels they are being denied control over their own person or choice the response is to fight. In the further event that a sustained fight is unlikely to end victoriously the person will endeavor to engage in a succinct fight. In the event the person does not feel they will come out victorious in a succession of succinct fights they will terminate the opposition upon victory of succinct fight. This is speaking generally.
Oh, is that how you justify it? I see...well, let me just tell you...no. While it is true that all populations will have a certain percentage of murderously/genocidally violent individuals (in thought and/or action), the fact is that this is not the norm. As far as percentages go, violent crime is down world-wide. The warrior mentality is no longer the norm for average citizens of modern, civilized societies. If you as an individual have murderous intent toward any other humans for any reason, rationalizing it is probably one of the most dangerous and harmful things you could do.
Quote:More specifically it is easily shown that atheism conviction has lead to the death of far more people than religious conviction. This is readily observable throughout the history of various countries which adopted atheist principles such as but not limited too Communist Russian and China as well as Facist Germany.
Ahem...horse shit. First off, Nazi Germany was expressly Christian. Ten seconds spent with Google will conclusively prove that to anyone who isn't just refusing to see the evidence for what it is. Hitler himself was likely Christian, and the Nazi movement was openly and expressly Christian at Hitler's behest. Lumping Hitler in with atheists is one of the most dishonest tricks in the christian apologetic bag. I'm sure you'll just dangle that little silk bag every Xtian keeps next to his nuts...you know, the one that contains the No True Scotsman fallacy? I'm sure you'll take that out and pet it a few times, but seriously...the Nazis were and still are mostly christians. Get over it.
As for Stalin, he may have been an atheist in terms of deistic belief, but there is some evidence that he believed himself to be a demigod of some kind (as is common with power-obsessed rulers like that), so he may have been a supernaturalist of some order. As for China, Mao created a personality cult centered around himself and used various religious tactics to build and enforce it...starting with "Thou shalt have no other gods before Mao." One could argue that Communist China's war on religion was only tantamount to the agenda of the state religion (aka the Communist Party).
While it would be difficult to argue that religion accounts for most of the violence in the world, it's also not logically sound to conclude that atheism can be blamed for more violence than theism.
Quote:Ha ha. My favorite resort would be to cure disabilities, defects, and undesirable traits. But I confess that I am lazy and killing takes a lot of work. I would much rather prevent and cure and leave it at that. It is less work in the long run.
Sure it would, buddy. Sure it would...so, do you also want to exterminate atheists? Are they a threat to society?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com