atheism and children

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

You said that IVF was an immoral and illicit act, and compared it to a criminal activity. So yeah, you did say the IVF babies are the product of immoral and illicit activities. You're the only one offering up straw here.

You have likened me to a criminal, CL, because I wanted a family and used science to make it happen.

And you want me to be cool with your belief in the superstitious mumbo jumbo that supposedly justifies your bigoted attitudes?

I don't think so.

And, again, will a rapist receive a worse punishment than me in the afterlife? You seem pretty clear about the Church's teachings on IVF.... why can't you figure out the answer to my question?

I said all children are sacred and precious. And they should not be seen as a "product of an immoral act" anymore than rape children should be seen as a "product of an immoral act." The means by which a child was conceived bears absolutely nothing on the child herself.

The analogy I used in regards to attaining $10 through stealing or working was not to compare the 2 acts (otherwise you'd also be saying that I'm comparing a child to $10), it was to explain how I believe there can be a right and a wrong way to go about obtaining the same end results. I used "stealing" because I know that stealing is something that y'all would consider an immoral act and so I thought it would help better explain where I am coming from. Nothing more, nothing less.

I actually don't care if you're cool with it or not. I do find it very interesting that you are so deeply offended by my personal belief that IVF is not moral, yet are totally ok with someone saying "I think having kids is immoral and I look down on people who have them." At least I don't look down on people who do IVF.

But, I digress.

That's like saying that the money obtained through dirty means is not dirty money.
If you have something against the methods through which IVF babies are born,then you automatically imply that you have something against the children itself whether you know it or not.

1)You are saying that the methods through which IVF babies are born is immoral.
2)Then you say that the children born through an immoral act such as rape shouldn't be viewed as a product of an immoral act.

In the first argument you are saying that:
*The method through which IVF babies are born is immoral and therefore imply that they should be seen as a product of an immoral act,but say that they shouldn't.
Then in the second argument you say that:
*The method through which rape babies are born is immoral and then you say that they should not be seen as a product of an immoral act,but imply that they should.

Like always,your inconsistency in arguments never ceases to amuse me.
I think it's time that you realize why your arguments rising from your book of rules formulated in a time period when science had little to no prevalence is a joke in the current society where science dominates the flying spaghetti monster.Good night.