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Homophobia. A misleading label
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RE: Homophobia. A misleading label
(October 26, 2010 at 10:58 pm)Dotard Wrote: The word assigned to heterosexuals such as myself who happen to dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals and harbor an aversion to gay or homosexual people, their lifestyle and culture is "Homophobic".

Homosexuals have also been known to be homophobic. It's really quite amusing ^_^ Not for them, I imagine.

I wouldn't say that it is a central part of your lifestyle... ie: since when was insectophobia a lifestyle? 0.o There's a whole culture named after homophobia now? What next... claustrophobia culture? ^_^

Quote:I accepted the label society has placed upon me, because hey smarter people than me get paid to think up these words, and stuff.

I have to note that this doesn't mean they are right. They probably are though. But we can't rule out conspiracy...

Quote:This, the label 'Homophobia', has caused me more problems than my "homophobia" has in and of itself. I focused in on the 'phobia part.

pho·bi·a   /ˈfoʊbiə/
[foh-bee-uh]
–noun
a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.
Origin:
1780–90; extracted from nouns ending in -phobia
—Synonyms
aversion, hatred.

I have an irrational fear? I hate? No I don't! I don't 'hate'. I wish no one harm. Now I have more questions. Why do I fear so much I hate? Yoda said fear leads to hate so it must be true!

You don't have a fear or hate... just an aversion, right? 0.o I never picked up any vibes that you were scared of them or hated them :S

Quote:So I go on a search to find the answers to why. Know what I learn't?

No, but I hope that Yoda being full of shit was one of the things. Sleepy

Quote:I don't have a 'phobia' at all. I realized the descriptor 'homophobia' is problematic for at least two reasons.


Shock Then what do I call you?! Shock

Other than the obvious title of 'God', of course.

Quote:First, I read psycological articles that suggest empirical research does not indicate that heterosexuals' antigay attitudes can reasonably be considered a phobia in the clinical sense. The limited data available suggest that many heterosexuals who express hostility toward gay men and lesbians do not manifest the physiological reactions to homosexuality that are associated with other phobias.
Second, using homophobia implies that antigay prejudice is an individual, clinical entity rather than a social phenomenon rooted in cultural ideologies and intergroup relations. Moreover, a phobia is usually experienced as dysfunctional and unpleasant. Antigay prejudice, however, is often highly functional for the heterosexuals who manifest it.

This is very well reasoned, actually. I agree. This isn't to state homophobia doesn't exist... but rather that it is a very misused term in many cases Smile

Quote:I think the term 'Sexual Prejudice' is a better fit. Broadly applied, sexual prejudice refers to all negative attitudes based on sexual orientation, whether the target is homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual.

Actually, it can apply adversely as well. I can be very prejudiced that the team I support is the best.

Quote:Just like any prejudice, sexual prejudice has features.

1. It is an attitude (i.e., an evaluation or judgment).
2. It is directed at a social group and its members.
remove ---->3. It is negative, involving hostility or dislike.<--- remove

It is a prejudice towards homosexuals. In this case it is negative, and you have hostility/dislike for them. In others it might be positive, with amiability/liking for them.

Or you could view it as positive that you dislike them, or negative that you like them. But that's just silly Smile

Quote:I think it a better fit because sexual prejudice is a descriptive term. Unlike homophobia, it conveys no a priori assumptions about the origins, dynamics, and underlying motivations of antigay attitudes.
AND using a construct of sexual prejudice does not require value judgments that antigay attitudes are inherently irrational or evil.

It doesn't stigmatize.

Thoughts?

I like that it doesn't stigmatize. That the other (misused, as you noted) term is stigmatized is rather a shame in itself, as i see it. I say, 'it's just sex! Get over it!'. Then someone involkes the children argument. Then I involke the titty argument. Then they leave.

Every single time. They never let me finish my three sentences about how birth traumatizes little babies. I mean they TOUCHED a vagina! They'll be traumatized for life.

Oh, and anyone who agrees with that statement was both C-sectioned and bottle-fed. With cows milk.
(October 27, 2010 at 2:43 am)Existentialist Wrote:
(October 26, 2010 at 10:58 pm)Dotard Wrote: Thoughts?

I think you're well overdue to get yourself a boyfriend. Isn't there anyone suitable amongst all your anti-gay mates?

Boyfriends are overrated. Also, Dotard is God (stating the obvious, but for some it hasn't sunk in). This means he gets the best.

And the best are all women.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Messages In This Thread
Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 26, 2010 at 10:58 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by KawaiiKoneko - October 27, 2010 at 12:54 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 27, 2010 at 2:43 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 27, 2010 at 8:13 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by fr0d0 - October 27, 2010 at 3:50 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Shinylight - October 27, 2010 at 5:26 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Autumnlicious - October 27, 2010 at 5:48 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 27, 2010 at 8:28 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by ib.me.ub - October 27, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2010 at 7:54 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:19 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by fr0d0 - October 27, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:31 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 27, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by fr0d0 - October 27, 2010 at 8:34 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Shell B - October 27, 2010 at 8:37 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by fr0d0 - October 27, 2010 at 8:52 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:44 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Shell B - October 27, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Shell B - October 27, 2010 at 8:50 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:52 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Shell B - October 27, 2010 at 8:55 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 9:06 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by downbeatplumb - October 27, 2010 at 9:27 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 6:17 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by chasm - October 27, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 27, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 27, 2010 at 3:26 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 27, 2010 at 3:48 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 27, 2010 at 6:01 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 27, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 27, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by chasm - October 27, 2010 at 2:31 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Autumnlicious - October 27, 2010 at 3:21 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 27, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Cerrone - October 27, 2010 at 4:07 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by HeyItsZeus - October 27, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Anomalocaris - October 27, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Cerrone - October 27, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by The Omnissiunt One - October 27, 2010 at 5:32 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Anomalocaris - October 27, 2010 at 5:32 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 6:25 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Autumnlicious - October 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 28, 2010 at 7:50 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 29, 2010 at 2:54 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by LastPoet - October 29, 2010 at 6:32 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 30, 2010 at 1:21 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 30, 2010 at 7:44 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 29, 2010 at 10:37 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2010 at 11:03 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Autumnlicious - October 29, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Skipper - October 29, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 10:36 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 7:01 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 29, 2010 at 7:36 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 7:46 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 9:09 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by DeistPaladin - October 29, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 30, 2010 at 6:56 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 27, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by fr0d0 - October 27, 2010 at 10:42 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by LastPoet - October 28, 2010 at 8:45 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Autumnlicious - October 29, 2010 at 5:55 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 29, 2010 at 5:57 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Zen Badger - October 29, 2010 at 7:59 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Dotard - October 29, 2010 at 9:16 pm
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2010 at 10:21 am
RE: Homophobia. A misleading label - by Violet - October 30, 2010 at 9:06 am

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