(October 27, 2010 at 4:36 pm)Chuck Wrote: Some of the nastiest toughs from history were bisexual or homosexual. The Spartans from perhaps the most pure warrior culture in history conceded the need to procreate, but otherwise deemed hetrosexuality unworthy and homosexuality the only fit orientation for a warrior. Japanese Samurais were very disproportionately homosexual, and so were the Mongols. Part of the terror of the Mongol conquest was the legend that the Mongol sodomized all prisoner of war as matter of policy. Alexander the Great was very much more on the homosexual side of bisexuality. Other than his mother he seemingly dealt with women for political reasons only. Caesar might be more hetrosexual than homosexual, but long before Cleopatra he did not shy from sexual dalliance with a King Mithradates to get what he wanted.
So maybe homophobes are aware of their relative inadaquacies and have good reason to fear homosexuals.
Hahaha maybe maybe
I can't really think of many Roman or Greek leaders or figures who werent bisexual, but it was very common up until the damn christians spoiled everyones fun by forcing people to committ to pairing off with each other in the long term.
Interesting sidenote though, the Romans considered "lust" for a man to have for a women or for a man to chase after women socially to be an effeminate quality, and was frowned upon. I believe this was the case with the Hellenes as well, although perhaps not the weirdo Athenians.
Anyway, those guys weren't "nasty toughs" they were heroic visionary men, far better examples of humanity than you'd probably see in your entire lifetime.
No 'fence