(August 10, 2015 at 7:30 pm)Alex K Wrote:(August 10, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
There have been very few times that I have refused to explain things any further. Those times all happen because people were starting to get very rude, and I'm sorry, but there's only so much that I think is healthy for me to subject to. The thing that I think you both fail to understand is that when I state a stance of the Church, it's because it's also my stance. And since people here love to say I cherry pick from Christianity when I state my views, it's become habit to always clarify that it's in line with my faith, and not stuff I'm cherry picking.
I still think it's very rash to tell someone you've known for 2 months on a forum that they have never, in their life, asked themselves why or reflected on matters. I'm not sure how anyone can presume to know that and make that accusation.
Always take what I write as a commentary on your young online persona here. It isn't meant to attack you as a person, but to attack perceived inconsistencies in or problematic aspects of your views as you present them here. To leverage a criticism, I think you too quickly become defensive and feel that you are being attacked as a person, and as a result don't address the points others make adequately before offering a knee jerk reaction.
For example, if you reread the text you quoted above you will find that I don't even accuse you of never reflecting on church doctrine. I say that you give the impression that acting on them and rejecting a piece of dogma seems out of the question for you.
Well I just think it's a bit ridiculous when people who barely know me here start accusing me of never having asked myself why and never having contemplated the matter lol. I'm not sure on what grounds anyone here can accuse me of that.
I really don't understand what you mean when you say I "give the impression that rejecting church teaching is out of the question." Why, is it because I agree with all of it? I've been asked whether I would still follow the Church if the Church came out and said rape was ok, or if they came out and changed their teaching on IVF. I've said no to both of those. So I'm not sure how I'm "giving the impression" that I'd blindly follow whatever the Church said without contemplating the matter.
Quote:But I accept your explanation that you're in the habit of stating whenever your own thoughts are in line with church teachings, and that this does not necessarily mean that you have no independent opinion. But be aware that this style creates that impression especially if no further reasons of your own are offered for those positions.
Well, it's either I do that and get accused of blindly following, or I don't do that and get accused of being a cafeteria Christian lol. Now I've had both happen.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh