I think the only debate going on here is to define the meaning of "free" and "will".
They're human concepts and therefore don't exist outside of the human mind. It's like arguing with a mathematician that infinity doesn't exist. We're not going to prove the concept of free will without defining our own arguments. And even then, it doesn't matter if your will is technically free or not, you'll still look up at the Sun and thank the lord for another day in paradise.
Like every animal.
They're human concepts and therefore don't exist outside of the human mind. It's like arguing with a mathematician that infinity doesn't exist. We're not going to prove the concept of free will without defining our own arguments. And even then, it doesn't matter if your will is technically free or not, you'll still look up at the Sun and thank the lord for another day in paradise.
Like every animal.