RE: atheism and children
August 11, 2015 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2015 at 7:45 pm by Javaman.
Edit Reason: just to clarify my point
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I just gotta say, I love all the thoughtful critiques of the Catholic's Church's position on IVF. Reading through everyone's comments (sans CL's of course) really emphasizes how arbitrary, petty, and (above all) nonsensical that position is. The issue is a bit too near to me, especially as a former Catholic, to remain calm, cool, and collected.
Based on CL's (and kingpin's) comments, it seems like absolutely everything involved with IVF is sacred, right down to the very medical implements necessary for IVF to occur. Yet there's this tiny little moment of immorality when sperm meets egg that is unacceptable to the Church. It's woo of the purest gibberish.
Even though I'm happy and proud beyond measure of my two boys, I'm still very aware of the social stigma attached to IVF chlildren; I've had many conversations with others who keep their infertility issues private because they feel a sense of shame that they need to use assisted reproductive technologies to have a child. As I said in my very first post, the Catholic Church's position pisses me off -- it amounts to "piling on" and seemingly justifies bigoted attitudes towards IVF.
My wife and I have not hid the details of their conception from our sons: my oldest has already received some comments from his religious classmates when he mentions how the doctors and nurses helped mommy and daddy make him. While I know he's strong enough to handle it, it irks me that he has to handle it in the first place.
Anyways, keep up the good work people.
Based on CL's (and kingpin's) comments, it seems like absolutely everything involved with IVF is sacred, right down to the very medical implements necessary for IVF to occur. Yet there's this tiny little moment of immorality when sperm meets egg that is unacceptable to the Church. It's woo of the purest gibberish.
Even though I'm happy and proud beyond measure of my two boys, I'm still very aware of the social stigma attached to IVF chlildren; I've had many conversations with others who keep their infertility issues private because they feel a sense of shame that they need to use assisted reproductive technologies to have a child. As I said in my very first post, the Catholic Church's position pisses me off -- it amounts to "piling on" and seemingly justifies bigoted attitudes towards IVF.
My wife and I have not hid the details of their conception from our sons: my oldest has already received some comments from his religious classmates when he mentions how the doctors and nurses helped mommy and daddy make him. While I know he's strong enough to handle it, it irks me that he has to handle it in the first place.
Anyways, keep up the good work people.
Sporadic poster
