(August 11, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote: But god knew that they were going to eat the fruit, therefore completely dooming them immediately when he created them.What makes you think they were doomed? They simply were not able to live the life they lived before the fall. Which considering the attonement offered was the whole point.
Quote:I don't want to be separated from your god, because I don't even believe he exists.Denying His existence on the words or principles of a philosophy is denying God.
Quote:No, the system is not perfect. Before god created the universe he KNEW that billions upon billions of people would be thrown into lakes of fire.How is people being consumed in Hell not perfect? The only way one can say that is with the idea that all have to goto Heaven. Many don't want to go if not on their terms.
Quote:People that didn't know he existed. People that didn't have enough evidence that he existedPeople are judged on what they have been give. we are not all judged on what modern Christianity has come to understand.
There is a great passage in Heb 4 that goes into greater detail.
Quote:. People that were raised to believe he didn't exist. How is that fair?According to Christ there are many who will be raised in the church who grew up thinking they were saved when they were not.. It's not about being fair. It is about being responsible to what God gave you over to understand. What did you do with the knowledge you did have?
Quote:Formal education for those who go on? Oh look. People being tortured! I am now smarter!Or, in the case of this website, those who deny God ask questions. Questions the trutly faithful would not have the mind to ask themselves, and if the faithful were responsiable to what they were given they would seek the answers on the behalf of those who asked them... that's how we 'get smarter.'
Quote:What happened to, "God loves all of his children?"God does indeed Love all of HIS Chrildren. Not all of You/us are His Children. Jesus told many parables, and most of which centered around the idea of separating God's people from those who are not. The wheat and weeds
Quote:Do you have any references from scripture?references for what specifically.
Also, going to boston for a few days may not be able to respond for a while.