Am I Going To Hell?

[Drich]

Right...and Gaud knew all that would happen, and he created it anyway knowing that most of humanity would wind up damned.

Knowing how someone is going to act/react given a senerio is not the same as forcing to act that way.

Instead of sparing all those souls by leaving them out of existence, he went ahead and made creation because he figured the few obedient, loving worshipers were worth the suffering and death of the rest of humanity. What a kind Gaud.

Indeed.

Sin wasn't created, and yet it exists.
Your Gaud is supposed to have created everything there is. If it exists and he didn't create it, that statement wouldn't be true, would it? If he created a system where things could come into existence without his creating them, why the fuck did he do that?

That's an Unwarranted assumption fallacy.

God did not create sin, Meaning it is not a thing, a tangable object existing in 3d time and space. All of creation fits under time and space. Sin was given as a gift. Meaning it was a purposed plan, or option of God to allow man the opportunity to sin, from the very beginning. We know this because the tree of Knoweledge was placed in the garden before Adam was.

Also, when you say "given to us," by whom? By Gaud? So he gave it to us as an opportunity, but he didn't create it? What, was it just lying around?

Again pinky sin is not a tangble thing. Sin is the ability to be outside of God's expressed/written will for us. I say we have been given this gift by Him, because we can live a whole life and remain in sin the whole time.

Actually no. Hell is described as the void, the pit, Death, the oppsite of creation/Life eternal. Hell is the absence creation the destruction of life. It is what creation is not. It was prepared for satan. It is also the tool use to destroy the 'infected'/Those who will not repent of their sin.

Hell is described as a lot of things, "fictional" being of the foremost importance.

And again, if that's true, it's because Gaud made it that way. If he were really all-powerful, he could have just as easily made a system totally free of suffering where personal growth comes about from eating magic raisins and fucking perfect holes in the wall.

Their must be a quality with true sentience that must demand independence from God. Enter sin. Sin is true independence from God. The only thing we must do to return from God is to seek Atonement for our sin. For some they value their independence more.

Now...by people who "hate God," do you mean atheists? Haven't we had this discussion before? Your imaginary friend does not exist. We do not hate your imaginary friend.

There is a word for people who Hate god and that is a Miso-theist. 99% of self claiming 'atheist' are indeed Miso-theist. the difference? If one does not believe in God he is indifferent to God, or God's commands. A miso theist hates God, Hates His Commands and/or Hates His policies as well.

So where do you stand on gay rights, abortion, The preservation of the sanctified Family?

[color=#cc3399]If we were unable to grow or experience anything, in what way were we not leading a totally programmed experience? If basically all we did was eat, sleep, and fuck, then we were actually living more or less the same lives the animals were living.

exactly!

]Yeah, and Austin 3:16 says "I just whipped your ass."

Drich 3:16 says i'll PM you an address if you want to give it a go.

If this were remotely true we would not have a way to redeem ourselves continuously.

Right, except that his method for redemption doesn't apply to the whole of humanity

If you weren't so quick to plug in a 20 year old catch phrase, and looked at the actual book chapter and verse you would see the Opportunity for redemption does indeed apply to Humanity.

, only to those who obey and worship him..

Indeed, again would you invite an Zombie virus infected neighbor live in your house so long as he promised not to turn into a zombie? If you will not allow people carrying a deadly infection to comingle with your loved ones, then how are you somehow better/different than God?

.hence my statement that he only cares about worship and obedience. If he cared about humans he would save them all, not just those who worship and obey.

But again no where in the bible does it say God cares for ALL of Humanity, only that God Loved All Humanity enough to have been given the same opportunity to enter His Agape'. God only promised to Love/Agape' His children. Those who return from sin to Him. (The cured.) Why should any parent 'love' a child who can be cured of a deadly zombie level virus, but refuses the cure because they demand the parent to love them with the infection and damn the rest of the non infected house hold. People like that are a cancer, and should be removed.

So the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus must have just sailed right over your head in Sunday School, huh? I realize it's a parable, but what would this parable illustrate about Hell?

It illustrates the finality of hell. that once you are there there are no second chances, their is no more forgiveness offered, that it's residence are doomed with out hope or prospect, despite any position or power one held in this life..

Certainly not that it's a place where souls are immediately consumed, for the Rich Man in this story has been there long enough to grow desperately thirsty for even a drop of water.

Indeed which give me hope/pause to think that the worse you were in this life the longer it takes for one to be consumed.
(maybe that's why the devil will burn forever.)

That medicine is an over-sized, rough-hewn suppository, and I seem to have an allergic reaction to something in it (probably the bullshit). You have fun with that, though. Once you get past the wide part I hear it's supposed to be easier, but then again you probably already knew that, didn't you, Gapes? Can I call you Gapes?

What's so hard about: "Jesus, I know I do a lot of bad crap. I don't want to be that person any more. Please help me change, give me what I need to Change." and then simply be faithful to what you are given??