Quote:But a lack of belief provides much less common ground than a belief. That's kind of the fucking point. Christians have an ideology, vanilla atheists per se do not.Really? Why should people love each other and get along just because they both believe in the divinity of Jesus? What if I thought Jesus was divine and was a hardcore racist and my friend was a hardcore anti-racist - Should we get along automatically just because we think Jesus is divine? It's kinda like saying one thing in common should unite people right away, that's not how it works, otherwise there would be just one Christian movement, and one Muslim movement, etc etc
Quote:I'm objecting to calling atheism IN GENERAL a movement. I'm not denying the existence of atheistic movements. I was objecting to the OP saying that 'we should dissociate him from the atheism movement'. I'm not in a movement, and I don't know who 'we' refers to.The OP was obviously talking about mainstream atheist movements like the legion of Richard Dawkins supporters, "secular" foundations, conventions, youtube atheists, etc - There is a set of common ground between all those activists and the OP is saying we (not necessarily all of us here on board) should dissociate NDT from the movement because he's taking a contrary stance.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you