RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 18, 2015 at 9:35 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2015 at 9:45 am by Pyrrho.)
(August 18, 2015 at 9:26 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Well it's inevitable. Imma get dead even if I refuse to accept it. So there's no point moaning about it
That is the stoic position. Here is something Epictetus had to say:
Quote:2. Remember that following desire promises the attainment of that of which you are desirous; and aversion promises the avoiding that to which you are averse. However, he who fails to obtain the object of his desire is disappointed, and he who incurs the object of his aversion wretched. If, then, you confine your aversion to those objects only which are contrary to the natural use of your faculties, which you have in your own control, you will never incur anything to which you are averse. But if you are averse to sickness, or death, or poverty, you will be wretched. Remove aversion, then, from all things that are not in our control, and transfer it to things contrary to the nature of what is in our control. But, for the present, totally suppress desire: for, if you desire any of the things which are not in your own control, you must necessarily be disappointed; and of those which are, and which it would be laudable to desire, nothing is yet in your possession. Use only the appropriate actions of pursuit and avoidance; and even these lightly, and with gentleness and reservation.
http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html
And more specifically about death:
Quote:5. Men are disturbed, not by things, but by the principles and notions which they form concerning things. Death, for instance, is not terrible, else it would have appeared so to Socrates. But the terror consists in our notion of death that it is terrible. When therefore we are hindered, or disturbed, or grieved, let us never attribute it to others, but to ourselves; that is, to our own principles. An uninstructed person will lay the fault of his own bad condition upon others. Someone just starting instruction will lay the fault on himself. Some who is perfectly instructed will place blame neither on others nor on himself.
http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html
Basically, with something inevitable, like death, you can bitch and moan about it, then die, or you can man up* and get on with your life, then die. What you cannot choose is to not die.
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*My apologies to the women for the sexist expression. In this case, it seems a useful expression, as somehow it seems mostly men and boys who whine about this, and not women very often. I do not recall a single thread about this topic started by a woman, though as I have not read every thread here, that does not mean that none exist, nor can I claim a perfect memory regardless. Maybe I should start a thread in which people choose between "I am male and upset about death," "I am male and not upset about death," "I am female and upset about death," and "I am female and not upset about death," and see what kind of results we get.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.