(August 18, 2015 at 11:27 am)Javaman Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 8:47 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry, I didn't realize I was "dodging" your question, I guess I just misunderstood it. When you say "the Catholic Church use their influence," aren't you referring to Catholic people deciding that they are going to do this? What exactly are you referring to?
When you were being very mean to me earlier on in the thread, I was giving you kudos as a joke. The last kudos I gave you was genuine because I liked that you accepted my response and then asked the next question respectfully.
When I say "the Catholic Church", I mean the Catholic Church as an organization or institution, complete with its decision-making hierarchy. Not Catholic people per se, but the people who are responsible for deciding on doctrine and what to do about it.
Do you think the Catholic Church (the institution) should use it's influence to make it illegal for anyone to use IVF?
I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it. It's a yes or no question.
Well it's just weird because all of us Catholics make up the "Catholic Church." But I see what you mean. You're referring to the higher ups. The Pope, Cardinals, etc.
Well first of all, I don't think they could make it illegal even if they wanted to. The governments world wide don't consult with the Church when making their laws, etc, so your question is flawed to begin with.
Second, I don't think any of those guys are interested in making IVF illegal anyway. There are plenty of things we (as a Church) think are immoral but that we don't think should be illegal. IVF is one of those things.
Abortion and the death penalty, on the other hand, are definitely things the higher ups have said should be illegal, and that we, as a Church, believe should be illegal. But as far as I know, they don't speak the same way about IVF. Neither do I think they should. The answer is no.
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