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christian looking to understand athiests
RE: christian looking to understand athiests
msid Wrote:
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i believe that God always answers prayer.  but the answer isnt always yes.  and i know you believe that its all just chance if my prayer is awnsered but its happened so many times that it cant be a coincidence. 
also i dont believe in the big bang because of how far fetched it is.  its an idea made up by people looking for any other explanation other than God.  
it takes WAY more faith not to believe that there was a creator of the universe.  if one single mistake had been made in the big bang the whole world could just collapse.  the idea that there was just a bang one time millions of years ago that created this perfect earth just takes a lot of faith in nothing to believe
You can't help what you believe about your personal experiences, we all have filters based on our histories and capacities.

You are not qualified to evaluate how far-fetched a cosmological theory is. Your opinion on the matter is unscientific and close to worthless. Many Christians use the Big Bang as an argument for God, claiming that it is the moment when God said 'let there be light'. It has nothing to do with whether or not there is a creator God. If there is, it is responsible for the Big Bang. The theory was devised to explain scientific findings like the red shift of distant galaxies and cosmic background radiation. It certainly wasn't 'made up' to get out of acccepting your particular theology.

You must be using a novel definition of the word 'faith' if it takes more of it to accept things for which there is compelling evidence than to accept things for which the evidence is hearsay and miracle claims that can't be demonstrated to be real. You seem to consider faith not to be a virtue, something it is bad of which to have 'too much'. I'm inclined to agree, but I thought you were supposed to be a Christian.

No one knows how many 'bangs' there were. For all we know, ours coult have been the billion trillionth 'Big Bang'. And there's no reason to believe that it could have occurred in any other way than the way it did, and some reason to think there's only one way it can happen.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Lucanus - August 18, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 2:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Aoi Magi - August 18, 2015 at 3:37 am
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 5:44 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 6:19 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Ayen - August 18, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 7:33 am
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Mister Agenda - August 18, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:00 pm
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 1:00 pm
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by tjakey - August 18, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by tjakey - August 19, 2015 at 9:01 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Minimalist - August 18, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Exian - August 18, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 18, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 11:48 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 18, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Crossless1 - August 18, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Chad32 - August 18, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by msid - August 18, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by brewer - August 18, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Brian37 - August 18, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Kingpin - August 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 18, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 18, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 18, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Ayen - August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 7:35 am
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Longhorn - August 19, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Javaman - August 19, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Jenny A - August 19, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Alex K - August 19, 2015 at 2:34 pm
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 19, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 20, 2015 at 12:17 am
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Brian37 - August 20, 2015 at 8:30 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Cyberman - August 20, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by robvalue - August 21, 2015 at 2:54 am
RE: christian looking to understand athiests - by Mr Greene - August 21, 2015 at 10:38 am

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