Fine Cephus, can I then argue that because most Christians in Europe don't go to church except for weddings and funerals therefore the Church isn't Christianity? 
You're just skipping questions and giving incoherent answers, no one is saying that most atheists are a part of those groups, but those aren't fringe insignificant institutions but they have some degree of influence because of supporters, etc. No one is saying that is indicative of what atheism is, but it is indicative that atheists can organize institutionally as well, even if there isn't a bible you can make shit up as you go along
You're just skipping questions and giving incoherent answers, no one is saying that most atheists are a part of those groups, but those aren't fringe insignificant institutions but they have some degree of influence because of supporters, etc. No one is saying that is indicative of what atheism is, but it is indicative that atheists can organize institutionally as well, even if there isn't a bible you can make shit up as you go along
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
